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> Imagine millions and millions of people doing this But they won't. Even here on HN, where some smart people roam, touching their meat (like, eating LESS of i
by anonzzzies 3y ago
> Imagine millions and millions of people doing this
But they won't. Even here on HN, where some smart people roam, touching their meat (like, eating LESS of it, not quitting altogether) will make them into incoherent angry (I guess) men. And that's of course a big step, smaller steps are even not a thing for many people; not flying, no car, hell, here people even refuse to obey the law of not topping up (or filling) their swimming pools even though there is an huge water shortage.
The only way will be if governments decide to step in. Problem there is; a lot of gov people and the people they support or who support them, are giving the wrong examples; big cars, slabs of meat, villas all over the place, bailing out struggling airlines, making sure the energy/oil companies can make more profits, making sure farmers have to obey nothing of these new rules because export products (so they can keep using whatever amount of water, cut ancient trees down just like that, ...) etc. People pick the govs they like, which means they hope either things will get better for themselves (not the world) or remain the same.
- uxcolumbo 3y agoYes true, but we have to keep trying to convince people in our circles. Otherwise we're effed. I would have hoped that especially this HN crowd would change their mind because it's quite clear and logical that not consuming meat and dairy will mean requiring fewer resources and producing less pollution.
- layer8 3y agoHuman habits, preferences, and desires rarely submit to pure logic. Humans are more emotional than rational.
- candiodari 3y agoIt's not just that. If these products aren't used anymore, we'll substitute them to some other form of consumption. If you want to have impact as an individual, study engineering/physics or indeed climate change ...
- surgical_fire 3y agoA lot of people just don't care.
- myshpa 3y ago> some smart people roam, touching their meat (like, eating LESS of it, not quitting altogether) will make them into incoherent angry (I guess) men Not so smart then. > The only way will be if governments decide to step in That's why more people vegan == more pressure for governments not to ignore the issue.
- fulafel 3y agoLots of people, also on HN, now follow climate friendly diets. In reality it is the meat eaters, not vegans, who are very loud and vocal about their diet. But I agree we need much stronger regulation.