I agree. I can either abstract with the app platform or kubernetes, or I can go straight into the box myself and do whatever needs doing. It has been a real ple

I agree. I can either abstract with the app platform or kubernetes, or I can go straight into the box myself and do whatever needs doing. It has been a real pleasure. I think fly’s tooling feels better than doctl, but the infrastructure is incomparable at the end of the day. doctl has improved over time too, and with added pressure from newcomers I don’t doubt that it’ll continue to improve.