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You’re moving the goal posts. They didn’t even hit the mark on the only thing they tried to do.. they completely lost the Obamacare campaign with the American p

You’re moving the goal posts. They didn’t even hit the mark on the only thing they tried to do.. they completely lost the Obamacare campaign with the American people as well. During the Obamacare rollout I was actually on the ground in rural Missouri educating people, trying to get them on board with Medicaid expansion. They didn’t want to hear it until I personalized the message, talked about rural healthcare disparities, etc. Instead of doing that, bringing a left wing message to working people, the Dems (including the senator I was working for at the time) just moved to the right. I was there, I remember what happened. I remember Hillary pandering to the right. I remember the moves like the anti-LGBTQ rhetoric from Dems. I expect better from the only viable liberal party in America.

lotsofpulp 3y ago
How did you expect them to get 60 votes in the Senate without moving to the “right”? You think a senator in 2009 was voting no because they thought the ACA was not sufficiently “left”? Can you list those senators? Without that, it seems like you were dreaming of a fantasy ending.
- femiagbabiaka 3y ago
  You’re so focused on arguing that you’ve completely circled around to the point I was making from the beginning, which is that the Dems use the GOP to hide from that fact that their own party is controlled by right wing interests. So yeah, they’re a right wing party, only better than the GOP in ways that matter to out of touch liberals, incapable of achieving anything that doesn’t involve shallow Supreme Court decisions. They are completely and totally incapable of solving the climate crisis because they will always capitulate to the lowest common denominator — only on the right though of course. Pelosi was great at whipping the Squad into supporting whatever milquetoast policies she wanted, Schumer as well, but somehow that never ends up working on the right wing folks, I wonder why… Of course, it doesn’t have to be that way. Dems could rally against corporate lobbying and for the better good. After all, they’ve been trying the opposite way for the last 50 years or more and failing in truly embarrassing fashion. Losing elections to literal conspiracy theorists, conmen, and bigots. But it won’t happen, because this way makes them rich and there are no consequences for them that matter. They simply choose to let things be this way and the Democrat base lets them get away with it.

lotsofpulp 3y ago

How did you expect them to get 60 votes in the Senate without moving to the “right”? You think a senator in 2009 was voting no because they thought the ACA was not sufficiently “left”? Can you list those senators? Without that, it seems like you were dreaming of a fantasy ending.

femiagbabiaka 3y ago
You’re so focused on arguing that you’ve completely circled around to the point I was making from the beginning, which is that the Dems use the GOP to hide from that fact that their own party is controlled by right wing interests. So yeah, they’re a right wing party, only better than the GOP in ways that matter to out of touch liberals, incapable of achieving anything that doesn’t involve shallow Supreme Court decisions. They are completely and totally incapable of solving the climate crisis because they will always capitulate to the lowest common denominator — only on the right though of course. Pelosi was great at whipping the Squad into supporting whatever milquetoast policies she wanted, Schumer as well, but somehow that never ends up working on the right wing folks, I wonder why… Of course, it doesn’t have to be that way. Dems could rally against corporate lobbying and for the better good. After all, they’ve been trying the opposite way for the last 50 years or more and failing in truly embarrassing fashion. Losing elections to literal conspiracy theorists, conmen, and bigots. But it won’t happen, because this way makes them rich and there are no consequences for them that matter. They simply choose to let things be this way and the Democrat base lets them get away with it.