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I continue to wonder how much studios are ACTUALLY hurt by this strike. The studios have reserves of money, they still get money from streaming existing content

by tekla 3y ago

I continue to wonder how much studios are ACTUALLY hurt by this strike. The studios have reserves of money, they still get money from streaming existing content. And short term they can still release content that are in post-prod enough to release. On the other hand, the public supports of the strike amounts to ... wanting new TV shows and movies. It's annoying for many I'm sure, but its not exactly something that keeps you alive.

brucethemoose2 3y ago
The studios burned through lots of money for the streaming boom, and the investors want returns from their burned money right about now. At the other end, streaming services are stuffed with content. I have no proof, but I suspect viewers will learn than the back catalog is pretty good.
- DriverDaily 3y ago
  They’re stuffed with content, but much of the content is of poor quality. The good stuff everyone has seen, and you can attract new viewers with a new show that is good.
  - zabzonk 3y ago
    but the new shows, written by those striking writers, aren't good - rings of power, she-hulk etc. etc.
    - DriverDaily 3y ago
      Yes, and that’s because they’re focused on quantity over quality. And if that’s your strategy, you can do it with AI.
  - woobar 3y ago
    They have 30-40 years worth of content. I agree, majority is bad. But there is still plenty of stuff to watch. Plus, rewatching some old great show often is more rewarding than consuming all this new drek.
    - JetSpiegel 3y ago
      That old content is not on Netflix, or if it is is quickly disappears for "rights" reasons. Even more so now with every company coming out with its special streaming service.
  - brucethemoose2 3y ago
    > The good stuff everyone has seen I disagree. Tons of good stuff flew under the radar over the years... I have a huge backlog to work through just flipping through ranked stuff on Reelgood.
  - xiphias2 3y ago
    I have a feeling that they are optimizing for view length (binge watchers) instead of commercial value of views. If I watch only 3 Netflix movies or 1 serie in a month, I should be getting 10 times more budget per movie / serie than a person viewing 30 Netflix movies / 10 series. Sadly this doesn't happen.
AmericanChopper 3y ago
> the public supports of the strike amounts to ... wanting new TV shows and movies Nobody in my social circle has taken any notice of it, because movies and TV has become so bad that none of us watch them anymore. Dune was the last Hollywood movie I watched, Oppenheimer and the next Dune are the only movies I’m looking forward to watching. There’s nothing on TV that I watch. I’m somewhat looking forward to the 3 Body Problem adaptation, but I’m expecting it will be bad. As far as I’m concerned they can stay on strike forever. Let somebody who can do a better job replace them.
- andrei_says_ 3y ago
  I find this quite cynical. The same executives who want to steal the wages of the writers and actors are responsible for the quality and range of productions. It is only a handful of directors who get full creative license. I agree that good sci-fi is rare but don’t think that my personal dissatisfaction should result in many thousands of already exploited people who put in incredibly hard work, their heart and souls in what they do, to go jobless - because you and I don’t like how their bosses, the same bosses who are trying to squash them, do their jobs. Finally, we might have similar tastes. A few things you might like: Outer Range; The Underground Railroad. I believe that the entertainment workers strike in Hollywood deserves my support.
  - AmericanChopper 3y ago
    I do sympathise for the poor working arrangements, but I just can’t bring myself to support a return to the status quo that would continue producing more of the same content that Hollywood has been producing. I certainly don’t blame only the writers. The producers and executives also play a major role in the decline of the quality. But I’ve seen bits and pieces of TV recently, and I do think the writing itself is typically just bad, regardless of other creative constraints. There’s many ways that a system can fail, and I’m simply not upset to see this system progressing along its path to failure.
JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> wonder how much studios are ACTUALLY hurt by this strike Netflix is fine. The others are hurting, but not bleeding, except maybe Discovery. Keep in mind the top-paid actors take in about as much as the top-paid studio heads.

by tekla 3y ago

brucethemoose2 3y ago

The studios burned through lots of money for the streaming boom, and the investors want returns from their burned money right about now. At the other end, streaming services are stuffed with content. I have no proof, but I suspect viewers will learn than the back catalog is pretty good.

DriverDaily 3y ago
They’re stuffed with content, but much of the content is of poor quality. The good stuff everyone has seen, and you can attract new viewers with a new show that is good.
- zabzonk 3y ago
  but the new shows, written by those striking writers, aren't good - rings of power, she-hulk etc. etc.
  - DriverDaily 3y ago
    Yes, and that’s because they’re focused on quantity over quality. And if that’s your strategy, you can do it with AI.
- woobar 3y ago
  They have 30-40 years worth of content. I agree, majority is bad. But there is still plenty of stuff to watch. Plus, rewatching some old great show often is more rewarding than consuming all this new drek.
  - JetSpiegel 3y ago
    That old content is not on Netflix, or if it is is quickly disappears for "rights" reasons. Even more so now with every company coming out with its special streaming service.
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  > The good stuff everyone has seen I disagree. Tons of good stuff flew under the radar over the years... I have a huge backlog to work through just flipping through ranked stuff on Reelgood.
- xiphias2 3y ago
  I have a feeling that they are optimizing for view length (binge watchers) instead of commercial value of views. If I watch only 3 Netflix movies or 1 serie in a month, I should be getting 10 times more budget per movie / serie than a person viewing 30 Netflix movies / 10 series. Sadly this doesn't happen.

AmericanChopper 3y ago

> the public supports of the strike amounts to ... wanting new TV shows and movies Nobody in my social circle has taken any notice of it, because movies and TV has become so bad that none of us watch them anymore. Dune was the last Hollywood movie I watched, Oppenheimer and the next Dune are the only movies I’m looking forward to watching. There’s nothing on TV that I watch. I’m somewhat looking forward to the 3 Body Problem adaptation, but I’m expecting it will be bad. As far as I’m concerned they can stay on strike forever. Let somebody who can do a better job replace them.

andrei_says_ 3y ago
I find this quite cynical. The same executives who want to steal the wages of the writers and actors are responsible for the quality and range of productions. It is only a handful of directors who get full creative license. I agree that good sci-fi is rare but don’t think that my personal dissatisfaction should result in many thousands of already exploited people who put in incredibly hard work, their heart and souls in what they do, to go jobless - because you and I don’t like how their bosses, the same bosses who are trying to squash them, do their jobs. Finally, we might have similar tastes. A few things you might like: Outer Range; The Underground Railroad. I believe that the entertainment workers strike in Hollywood deserves my support.
- AmericanChopper 3y ago
  I do sympathise for the poor working arrangements, but I just can’t bring myself to support a return to the status quo that would continue producing more of the same content that Hollywood has been producing. I certainly don’t blame only the writers. The producers and executives also play a major role in the decline of the quality. But I’ve seen bits and pieces of TV recently, and I do think the writing itself is typically just bad, regardless of other creative constraints. There’s many ways that a system can fail, and I’m simply not upset to see this system progressing along its path to failure.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> wonder how much studios are ACTUALLY hurt by this strike Netflix is fine. The others are hurting, but not bleeding, except maybe Discovery. Keep in mind the top-paid actors take in about as much as the top-paid studio heads.