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I don't think you could do that on PalmPilots either. You're taking a cool story about use and history of the PalmPilot and turning it into Yet Another iPhone

I don't think you could do that on PalmPilots either. You're taking a cool story about use and history of the PalmPilot and turning it into Yet Another iPhone Complaint Thread.

codetrotter 3y ago
Not trying to start an iPhone complaint thread. iPhone has been my preferred phone for many years, and continues to be so. I am still disappointed at having such a powerful piece of hardware in my pocket and not being able to write and run a native application for the device, on the device. Many years ago, when smartphones first became a thing, I had certain expectations about what would be possible and yet here we are over a decade later and it’s still not possible to do that thing, simply because Apple doesn’t want us to be able to do it. I think we should continue to talk about this until the day comes where it becomes possible.
- admax88qqq 3y ago
  I too am disappointed at having a computer in my pocket I don't truly own. But I'm also disappointed at how HN seems to only have like 5 topics people want to discuss and the comments on every submission find their way back to those topics no matter how tenuous.
  - doublerabbit 3y ago
    Sometimes I wish teddy bears would just invade, silence all humans and fix the world already. By any means necessary.
    - doubled112 3y ago
      You were watching Care Bears as if it were a documentary?
      - deleted 3y ago
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  - serf 3y ago
    >But I'm also disappointed at how HN seems to only have like 5 topics people want to discuss and the comments on every submission find their way back to those topics no matter how tenuous. doesn't that just point to the impact and magnitude of the perceived problem? "Yeah, I know the kitchen is on fire, but let's talk about how the pancakes taste." 'group-attention' migrates back to the collective concern; seems unsurprising, espescially in the face of being reminded of a product that had these concerns handled well compared to our future selves.
    - ciabattabread 3y ago
      I'm glad Apple implemented dark mode so I don't have to keep on hearing about that complaint in every Apple discussion.
- TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
  Why is this important to you? Have you done any embedded programming?
  - codetrotter 3y ago
    Yes I have done embedded programming. But that’s not what I am talking about. I am talking about building and compiling regular iOS apps on iOS itself.
criddell 3y ago
You could! https://orbworks.com/pcpalm/ https://orbworks.com/pcpalm/
serf 3y ago
yeah, you absolutely could -- and in a variety of different languages.
zimpenfish 3y ago
> I don't think you could do that on PalmPilots either. I wrote a couple of apps using Quartus Forth[1] entirely on the Palm IIIx. Admittedly fairly simple ones but done entirely locally. [1] http://www.quartus.net/products/forth/ http://www.quartus.net/products/forth/
bombcar 3y ago
The HP 100/200 LX certainly could. It had a serial port built in and could PCMCIA a parallel port. With DOS 5.0 and software you could build a controller for all sorts of things on two AA batteries, and people did.
luismedel 3y ago
You could and the experience was even pleasant with an external keyboard (I used a Palm Tungsten with an IR foldable keyboard) https://onboardc.sourceforge.net/ https://onboardc.sourceforge.net/

I don't think you could do that on PalmPilots either. You're taking a cool story about use and history of the PalmPilot and turning it into Yet Another iPhone Complaint Thread.

codetrotter 3y ago

Not trying to start an iPhone complaint thread. iPhone has been my preferred phone for many years, and continues to be so. I am still disappointed at having such a powerful piece of hardware in my pocket and not being able to write and run a native application for the device, on the device. Many years ago, when smartphones first became a thing, I had certain expectations about what would be possible and yet here we are over a decade later and it’s still not possible to do that thing, simply because Apple doesn’t want us to be able to do it. I think we should continue to talk about this until the day comes where it becomes possible.

admax88qqq 3y ago
I too am disappointed at having a computer in my pocket I don't truly own. But I'm also disappointed at how HN seems to only have like 5 topics people want to discuss and the comments on every submission find their way back to those topics no matter how tenuous.
- doublerabbit 3y ago
  Sometimes I wish teddy bears would just invade, silence all humans and fix the world already. By any means necessary.
  - doubled112 3y ago
    You were watching Care Bears as if it were a documentary?
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
- serf 3y ago
  >But I'm also disappointed at how HN seems to only have like 5 topics people want to discuss and the comments on every submission find their way back to those topics no matter how tenuous. doesn't that just point to the impact and magnitude of the perceived problem? "Yeah, I know the kitchen is on fire, but let's talk about how the pancakes taste." 'group-attention' migrates back to the collective concern; seems unsurprising, espescially in the face of being reminded of a product that had these concerns handled well compared to our future selves.
  - ciabattabread 3y ago
    I'm glad Apple implemented dark mode so I don't have to keep on hearing about that complaint in every Apple discussion.
TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
Why is this important to you? Have you done any embedded programming?
- codetrotter 3y ago
  Yes I have done embedded programming. But that’s not what I am talking about. I am talking about building and compiling regular iOS apps on iOS itself.

criddell 3y ago

You could! https://orbworks.com/pcpalm/ https://orbworks.com/pcpalm/

serf 3y ago

yeah, you absolutely could -- and in a variety of different languages.

zimpenfish 3y ago

> I don't think you could do that on PalmPilots either. I wrote a couple of apps using Quartus Forth[1] entirely on the Palm IIIx. Admittedly fairly simple ones but done entirely locally. [1] http://www.quartus.net/products/forth/ http://www.quartus.net/products/forth/

bombcar 3y ago

The HP 100/200 LX certainly could. It had a serial port built in and could PCMCIA a parallel port. With DOS 5.0 and software you could build a controller for all sorts of things on two AA batteries, and people did.

luismedel 3y ago

You could and the experience was even pleasant with an external keyboard (I used a Palm Tungsten with an IR foldable keyboard) https://onboardc.sourceforge.net/ https://onboardc.sourceforge.net/