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The faster humans can get off the planet the better the earth will become. I don't mind all the climate change talk. But I do mind the symptoms curing. The be

The faster humans can get off the planet the better the earth will become. I don't mind all the climate change talk. But I do mind the symptoms curing. The best people can come up with are fucking electrical cars and artificial meat. Because we too many fucking people to serve natural foods. What the fuuuck is wrong with us? I might sound pessimistic but I don't have any faith in humanity as for saving the world. Absolutely none. Very few are willing to sacrifice what it really takes to adjust. And I get that. It would probably mean we needed to kill a few billion in the west, india and far east. Who wants to join that lottery? No way. I want my car, my fairly big house, two kids, my fridge and my flights out when it's cold. Let it burn for all I care. I hope it will. Because deep inside i know the earth will prevail. Its just a matter of how many humans it will take along with it.

7952 3y ago
The best we can come up with is not electric cars and synthetic meat but bicycles and vegetables.
- valval 3y ago
  When you atrophy on your vegetable only diet, at least you’re guaranteed to be easy to overpower when the meat eaters need to get rid of some people to sustain resources further.
  - 7952 3y ago
    Your hypothetical meat eaters are stuck at the side of the road where they ran out of petrol.
    - selimthegrim 3y ago
      Bartertown vs Flavortown, which will prevail?
foobiekr 3y ago
The only way any significant fractions will get off the earth is in the metaphoric sense: they died. The energy required to move any even a trivial population people off the planet is not attainable.
- cuu508 3y ago
  I think that's precisely the sense GP meant.
JohnFen 3y ago
> The faster humans can get off the planet the better the earth will become. Long term, the earth will be just fine. The only real question is whether or not it will be a good place for people to live on. Or, as I used to put it: we are causing an imbalance that will be corrected. If we don't correct it, nature will, and nature's methods will be much more cruel than people expect.
- theossuary 3y ago
  Your point reminds me of my favorite guest lecture I've ever seen: https://youtu.be/sI1C9DyIi_8 https://youtu.be/sI1C9DyIi_8 About 15 minutes in he makes the same point you do.

7952 3y ago

The best we can come up with is not electric cars and synthetic meat but bicycles and vegetables.

valval 3y ago
When you atrophy on your vegetable only diet, at least you’re guaranteed to be easy to overpower when the meat eaters need to get rid of some people to sustain resources further.
- 7952 3y ago
  Your hypothetical meat eaters are stuck at the side of the road where they ran out of petrol.
  - selimthegrim 3y ago
    Bartertown vs Flavortown, which will prevail?

foobiekr 3y ago

The only way any significant fractions will get off the earth is in the metaphoric sense: they died. The energy required to move any even a trivial population people off the planet is not attainable.

cuu508 3y ago
I think that's precisely the sense GP meant.

JohnFen 3y ago

> The faster humans can get off the planet the better the earth will become. Long term, the earth will be just fine. The only real question is whether or not it will be a good place for people to live on. Or, as I used to put it: we are causing an imbalance that will be corrected. If we don't correct it, nature will, and nature's methods will be much more cruel than people expect.

theossuary 3y ago
Your point reminds me of my favorite guest lecture I've ever seen: https://youtu.be/sI1C9DyIi_8 https://youtu.be/sI1C9DyIi_8 About 15 minutes in he makes the same point you do.