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> how do we protest this The proposal for Chrome, you don't, because there's no stopping it. See DRM, Secure Boot, all the rest of the shitshow pursuing "trust

by pmlnr 3y ago

> how do we protest this The proposal for Chrome, you don't, because there's no stopping it. See DRM, Secure Boot, all the rest of the shitshow pursuing "trusted environment". It'll never happen, but CEOs won't accept reality. You can, however, embrace the rest: eg. keep serving your own content on http (along with https), gopher for retro compatibility, and because they are less prone to break. Keep using your current device for browsing, and whatever refuses to serve you either leave it for good or keep a spare chromebook for all the "services" you can't avoid to use, like banking. I don't have a better route. It's a bit like streaming: if I want resolution above 480p, I use a Chromecast with Android TV.

t0astbread 3y ago
Generally agree but I don't think Secure Boot falls in this category unless the keys are locked in firmware (and in that case the firmware is the problem). Root passwords aren't evil either just because they can be withdrawn from the user.
- gizmo686 3y ago
  Secure Boot is often conflated with Measured Boot. Measured Boot is essential for any attestation based scheme.
zzo38computer 3y ago
> if I want resolution above 480p, I use a Chromecast with Android TV. I am one who specifically does not want a resolution above 480p. Unfortunately, some TV services had decided to remove that feature and now it wastes disk space due to the higher resolution. I also want to be able to use an external caption decoder and recorder (in my case, the same device does both), so will use the composite video and not HDMI (which doesn't have captions). Steven J. Searle wrote: "The sad fact of the matter is that people play politics with standards to gain commercial advantage, and the result is that end users suffer the consequences. This is the case with character encoding for computer systems, and it is even more the case with HDTV." > keep serving your own content on http (along with https), gopher for retro compatibility, and because they are less prone to break. Yes, it is reasonable. I think that "HTTPS only" is (mostly) no good, but having both is good. HSTS is no good.
userbinator 3y ago
If I want resolution above 480p, I turn to torrents. That said, I haven't had the desire to watch TV for a long time.

by pmlnr 3y ago

t0astbread 3y ago

Generally agree but I don't think Secure Boot falls in this category unless the keys are locked in firmware (and in that case the firmware is the problem). Root passwords aren't evil either just because they can be withdrawn from the user.

gizmo686 3y ago
Secure Boot is often conflated with Measured Boot. Measured Boot is essential for any attestation based scheme.

zzo38computer 3y ago

> if I want resolution above 480p, I use a Chromecast with Android TV. I am one who specifically does not want a resolution above 480p. Unfortunately, some TV services had decided to remove that feature and now it wastes disk space due to the higher resolution. I also want to be able to use an external caption decoder and recorder (in my case, the same device does both), so will use the composite video and not HDMI (which doesn't have captions). Steven J. Searle wrote: "The sad fact of the matter is that people play politics with standards to gain commercial advantage, and the result is that end users suffer the consequences. This is the case with character encoding for computer systems, and it is even more the case with HDTV." > keep serving your own content on http (along with https), gopher for retro compatibility, and because they are less prone to break. Yes, it is reasonable. I think that "HTTPS only" is (mostly) no good, but having both is good. HSTS is no good.

userbinator 3y ago

If I want resolution above 480p, I turn to torrents. That said, I haven't had the desire to watch TV for a long time.