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Why doesn't everyone run their own Lemmy server and federate? Seems to me this would be the only way to avoid all the various server problems.

paxys 3y ago
Because not everyone wants to host and maintain a server?
- rglullis 3y ago
  It doesn't have to be "everyone", but imagine how much healthier the internet would be if 0.1% of the users of any social media network self-hosted and went on to provide the services for their friends/family. To add to that, imagine if every small business that wants/needs to have a web presence (basically, everyone) could have many different hosting providers where they could have their own Mastodon server, Web Page, online support and calls via Matrix, etc. This doesn't need to cost more than $50/month, i.e, probably less than what people pay in their cellphone bill. Just that would make - almost by definition - that no server would house more than 1000 people. It would be completely resilient.
  - cybercatgurrl 3y ago
    i self-host my presence but being responsible for my friend’s social media presence too is too much responsibility for me to bear if i fuck up and it goes down for a day
    - rglullis 3y ago
      - Why? It's social media, not a pacemaker alarm. Your friends will survive just fine if you have a day of downtime. - Nothing stopping the possibility of having redundancy though relays. nostr actually has this by design. If one node goes down, the service might get degraded but never interrupted. - "self-hosting" does not necessarily mean the act of hosting it yourself. One could, e.g, use a service provider like elest.io, yunohost or my own [0] to run the services. You'd still be responsible for the basic administration, but you'd have actual professional support for uptime, software maintenance, backup, etc. [0]: https://communick.com https://communick.com
      - CaptainFever 3y ago
        > Why? It's social media, not a pacemaker alarm. Your friends will survive just fine if you have a day of downtime. It feels that mainstream social media has set the expectation that any downtime is big news. That’s, of course, not the case for small social media. People can handle downtime. If anyone is interested in contributing to small social media, this site is a good guide for the Fediverse side of things: http://runyourown.social/ http://runyourown.social/
        zirgs 3y ago
        Ok, and what if someone posts something illegal there? I don't want to monitor that server 24/7.
        CaptainFever 3y ago
        Do you trust your friends to not post illegal things to your server?
        rglullis 3y ago
        You host only data that can be e2e encrypted. Then you don't need to monitor anything because you physically can't.
        tredre3 3y ago
        > You host only data that can be e2e encrypted Wait, what? Aren't we talking about lemmy? The instance owner absolutely does host, in clear, all of its users' content. What am I missing?
        rglullis 3y ago
        I was talking about self-hosting in general. If you want to are talking about Lemmy in specific: you can host an instance and make it that only admins create communities. This way, your server will not be hosting any files.

paxys 3y ago

Because not everyone wants to host and maintain a server?

rglullis 3y ago
It doesn't have to be "everyone", but imagine how much healthier the internet would be if 0.1% of the users of any social media network self-hosted and went on to provide the services for their friends/family. To add to that, imagine if every small business that wants/needs to have a web presence (basically, everyone) could have many different hosting providers where they could have their own Mastodon server, Web Page, online support and calls via Matrix, etc. This doesn't need to cost more than $50/month, i.e, probably less than what people pay in their cellphone bill. Just that would make - almost by definition - that no server would house more than 1000 people. It would be completely resilient.
- cybercatgurrl 3y ago
  i self-host my presence but being responsible for my friend’s social media presence too is too much responsibility for me to bear if i fuck up and it goes down for a day
  - rglullis 3y ago
    - Why? It's social media, not a pacemaker alarm. Your friends will survive just fine if you have a day of downtime. - Nothing stopping the possibility of having redundancy though relays. nostr actually has this by design. If one node goes down, the service might get degraded but never interrupted. - "self-hosting" does not necessarily mean the act of hosting it yourself. One could, e.g, use a service provider like elest.io, yunohost or my own [0] to run the services. You'd still be responsible for the basic administration, but you'd have actual professional support for uptime, software maintenance, backup, etc. [0]: https://communick.com https://communick.com
    - CaptainFever 3y ago
      > Why? It's social media, not a pacemaker alarm. Your friends will survive just fine if you have a day of downtime. It feels that mainstream social media has set the expectation that any downtime is big news. That’s, of course, not the case for small social media. People can handle downtime. If anyone is interested in contributing to small social media, this site is a good guide for the Fediverse side of things: http://runyourown.social/ http://runyourown.social/
      - zirgs 3y ago
        Ok, and what if someone posts something illegal there? I don't want to monitor that server 24/7.
        CaptainFever 3y ago
        Do you trust your friends to not post illegal things to your server?
        rglullis 3y ago
        You host only data that can be e2e encrypted. Then you don't need to monitor anything because you physically can't.
        tredre3 3y ago
        > You host only data that can be e2e encrypted Wait, what? Aren't we talking about lemmy? The instance owner absolutely does host, in clear, all of its users' content. What am I missing?
        rglullis 3y ago
        I was talking about self-hosting in general. If you want to are talking about Lemmy in specific: you can host an instance and make it that only admins create communities. This way, your server will not be hosting any files.