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In what world is local food typically more emission heavy than imported food?

dukeyukey 3y ago
This one. For example, imported New Zealand lamb is significantly less carbon intensive than Welsh lamb (when consumed in the UK), because of country size and climate. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/nz-lambs-better-environment-2240702 https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/nz-lambs-bette...
- CameronNemo 3y ago
  That is one cherry picked example... And it is an odd situation to have picked. The colony that has yet to have its nutrients extracted and exported requires less fertilizers. Who knew /s.
  - Retric 3y ago
    Hardly, it’s cherry picked in the other direction to favor local production due to the extreme distances involved. Compare veggies grown in Spain and shipped to London and the advantage is even later, but the distances are less impressive.
    - CameronNemo 3y ago
      You're still taking a London centric view, which is very odd. The context is India, remember. One of England's former colonies.
      - Retric 3y ago
        The study was comparing food consumed in the UK not India. It wasn’t suggesting producing apples/milk/lamb in New Zealand was the best option, just that it was more environmentally friendly for people in the UK to eat an Apple from New Zealand than that which was produced locally. Clearly there’s other options for imports that aren’t literally from the opposite side of the planet. (https://www.geodatos.net/en/antipodes/united-kingdom/london https://www.geodatos.net/en/antipodes/united-kingdom/london) > concluded that lamb imported from New Zealand is four times as energy efficient as lamb reared in the UK, even when carbon emissions from the transport process are taken into account.” > The report shows apples and dairy products also have a smaller carbon footprint – half the size, in the case of dairy – when they are imported from New Zealand rather than UK-sourced. > Professor Caroline Saunders, who led the research, said, “Food that has travelled long distances is perceived as being harmful to the environment and has some media attention in our key markets, especially Europe.
      - dukeyukey 3y ago
        What? Why does any of that matter?
  - dukeyukey 3y ago
    It's the example I know off the top of my head, because I'm from a Welsh farming town. Is that really so surprising? Transport is _incredibly_ efficient nowadays, it's completely expected that a better climate trumps transportation costs.
whimsicalism 3y ago
In a world where economies to scale in large production reasons = less GHG/per cultivated and the typical person involved in the production of the food has a much lower carbon footprint necessary to sustain their life.

This one. For example, imported New Zealand lamb is significantly less carbon intensive than Welsh lamb (when consumed in the UK), because of country size and climate. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/nz-lambs-better-environment-2240702 https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/nz-lambs-bette...

CameronNemo 3y ago
That is one cherry picked example... And it is an odd situation to have picked. The colony that has yet to have its nutrients extracted and exported requires less fertilizers. Who knew /s.
- Retric 3y ago
  Hardly, it’s cherry picked in the other direction to favor local production due to the extreme distances involved. Compare veggies grown in Spain and shipped to London and the advantage is even later, but the distances are less impressive.
  - CameronNemo 3y ago
    You're still taking a London centric view, which is very odd. The context is India, remember. One of England's former colonies.
    - Retric 3y ago
      The study was comparing food consumed in the UK not India. It wasn’t suggesting producing apples/milk/lamb in New Zealand was the best option, just that it was more environmentally friendly for people in the UK to eat an Apple from New Zealand than that which was produced locally. Clearly there’s other options for imports that aren’t literally from the opposite side of the planet. (https://www.geodatos.net/en/antipodes/united-kingdom/london https://www.geodatos.net/en/antipodes/united-kingdom/london) > concluded that lamb imported from New Zealand is four times as energy efficient as lamb reared in the UK, even when carbon emissions from the transport process are taken into account.” > The report shows apples and dairy products also have a smaller carbon footprint – half the size, in the case of dairy – when they are imported from New Zealand rather than UK-sourced. > Professor Caroline Saunders, who led the research, said, “Food that has travelled long distances is perceived as being harmful to the environment and has some media attention in our key markets, especially Europe.
    - dukeyukey 3y ago
      What? Why does any of that matter?
- dukeyukey 3y ago
  It's the example I know off the top of my head, because I'm from a Welsh farming town. Is that really so surprising? Transport is _incredibly_ efficient nowadays, it's completely expected that a better climate trumps transportation costs.

whimsicalism 3y ago

In a world where economies to scale in large production reasons = less GHG/per cultivated and the typical person involved in the production of the food has a much lower carbon footprint necessary to sustain their life.