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Exciting! This looks and feels a lot like the counter culture experience I had in the 80s as a hacker. The sense of fighting The Man may now be taken up again

by ynac 3y ago

Exciting! This looks and feels a lot like the counter culture experience I had in the 80s as a hacker. The sense of fighting The Man may now be taken up against The AI. Well played game nerds!

pksebben 3y ago
I feel like we've seen this any time that the tools are new and powerful enough - the folks unburdened by hierarchical structure can and do move fast, so when there's a sea change they can get in there and do some good damage until the behemoths catch on and steer their resources towards shoring up what they perceive as defects (frequently identified as anything that reduces their control over any system or it's connected parts). My hope is that things get faster and more chaotic as we move forward. The best stuff happens when the empowered are scrappy and in it for the love and not the money.
dylan604 3y ago
I always like how this just brings to the surface the lack of respect the creators of the thing, in this case AI, that it will be abused by the public. The public doesn't care how/what the devs want it to do. The public cares about what they can make it do. See hot rods, overclocking, or any of the millions of other examples.
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  Now that's hacking
- ehnto 3y ago
  Yep, and even if the US regulates it, the public will take it underground, and overseas will keep pushing on. The cat is out of the bag. I would still like to see these companies try and fix any negative externalities mind you. If they just throw their hands up at helping accelerate SEO spam then that'd be disappointing.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    That's the thing that makes me laugh at the pageantry of this time waste. Do people really think that US companies are the only ones working on this tech? I love how the US still has the notion that the rest of the world gives one iota about its "morality" dictates.
- l33t233372 3y ago
  > The public doesn't care how/what the devs want it to do. The public cares about what they can make it do This is _hacker_ news. I don’t care about what it was “intended” to do either; I care about what it can do when pushed to its limits!

by ynac 3y ago

Exciting! This looks and feels a lot like the counter culture experience I had in the 80s as a hacker. The sense of fighting The Man may now be taken up against The AI. Well played game nerds!

pksebben 3y ago

I feel like we've seen this any time that the tools are new and powerful enough - the folks unburdened by hierarchical structure can and do move fast, so when there's a sea change they can get in there and do some good damage until the behemoths catch on and steer their resources towards shoring up what they perceive as defects (frequently identified as anything that reduces their control over any system or it's connected parts). My hope is that things get faster and more chaotic as we move forward. The best stuff happens when the empowered are scrappy and in it for the love and not the money.

dylan604 3y ago

I always like how this just brings to the surface the lack of respect the creators of the thing, in this case AI, that it will be abused by the public. The public doesn't care how/what the devs want it to do. The public cares about what they can make it do. See hot rods, overclocking, or any of the millions of other examples.

Apocryphon 3y ago
Now that's hacking
ehnto 3y ago
Yep, and even if the US regulates it, the public will take it underground, and overseas will keep pushing on. The cat is out of the bag. I would still like to see these companies try and fix any negative externalities mind you. If they just throw their hands up at helping accelerate SEO spam then that'd be disappointing.
- dylan604 3y ago
  That's the thing that makes me laugh at the pageantry of this time waste. Do people really think that US companies are the only ones working on this tech? I love how the US still has the notion that the rest of the world gives one iota about its "morality" dictates.
l33t233372 3y ago
> The public doesn't care how/what the devs want it to do. The public cares about what they can make it do This is _hacker_ news. I don’t care about what it was “intended” to do either; I care about what it can do when pushed to its limits!