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Also to note > Not forgetting other sustainable alternatives to ICEs, the European Parliament mandated at least one hydrogen refueling station every 200 km alo
by nixass 3y ago
Also to note
> Not forgetting other sustainable alternatives to ICEs, the European Parliament mandated at least one hydrogen refueling station every 200 km along TEN-T motorways by 2031.
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- PartiallyTyped 3y agoWhat’s the range on hydrogen fuelled cars?
- hiatus 3y agoThe Mirai has a range of 502km. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Mirai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Mirai
- clouddrover 3y agoThe second generation Mirai's range is 647 km (402 mi) on the EPA test cycle. The Hyundai Nexo gets 570–612 km (354–380 mi) EPA range: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Nexo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Nexo
- ljf 3y agoComparable to petrol cars - the figure I've seen is 3-400miles refueled in the same time as a gas car: https://driveclean.ca.gov/hydrogen-fuel-cell#:~:text=Fuel%20cell%20cars%20can%20carry,three%20years%20of%20complimentary%20fuel https://driveclean.ca.gov/hydrogen-fuel-cell#:~:text=Fuel%20... That said - my diesel car easily does 600-700 miles per 60litre tank
- eptcyka 3y agoThe refuel time is dependent on the pressure in the tank. There's an intermediate tank that's used to pressurize the hydrogen before it can be pumped into the car, and pressurizing this vessel can take a lot longer when the main tank is empty. I'd say that the refueling time is only as good as petrol in the best case scenario.
- polytely 3y agoit seems so incredibly complicated compared to EV's I can't really imagine a future where hydrogen will be a big part of vehicles
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoNot to mention the huge amount of energy it takes to compress or liquify a gas. Everyone ignores this when talking about hydrogen as fuel.
- _hypx 3y agoAll cars are complicated. Hydrogen cars have an advantage of being truly sustainable, something BEVs are not. So it safe to say that it is inevitable that cars will transition to hydrogen. Personal opinions like these are just a repeat of classic anti-progress statements like "airplanes will never happen" or "radio will never amount to anything."
- PartiallyTyped 3y agoWhat's the chance of a hydrogen fuel cell exploding?
- fatuna 3y agoLooking at the number of h2 cars on the road, I'd say it's a complete waste...
- pjc50 3y agoAre there any at all? I've seen zero marketed, while EVs are starting to become prevalent and my city has electric and hybrid buses.
- kurthr 3y agoI see 1-2 a month, but they're all Mirai and I only know of 2-3 charging stations within 10mi/20km.
- kriro 3y agoHyundai always had a model, Nexo (name might have been different previously). Pricey though. Not mass marketed as far as I can tell but produced as a series so no vaporware and they had it for roughly as long as their all electric Ioniqs.
- 6510 3y agoAs they use to say "Why buy a fax if no one owns a fax." If we have that many charging stations there is no need for humongous batteries, they can have lighter frames and engines, be cheaper to buy and repair, less road tax. As the real Tesla use to say: Balance the source with the load. It remains dubious where all that electricity should come from. When making a budget and your spending is still larger than your income you look for places to cut. If most of your money goes towards transporting suitcases of money one might consider if there is a need to bring that much. if hydrogen cant compete it will just die out. Worth a shot tho.
- coryrc 3y agoWaste of money on a dead-end technology.