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Oh good, a tertiary effect of climate change is we're going to have to trash all the plastics and electronics that were made for normal temperatures.
by undersuit 3y ago
Oh good, a tertiary effect of climate change is we're going to have to trash all the plastics and electronics that were made for normal temperatures.
- justinzollars 3y agoSardinia has been inhospitable since the Roman times - and probably before since we don't have much history prior to Tacitus complaining about the heat on the island.
- undersuit 3y agoBut now we need to make new stuff to live there... which people have been living there since before history so it's not exactly inhospitable. When your car seat melts that market has a solution, more production! Maybe not even of car seats that can stand the heat, just throw out the ones that melt and replace them until they melt again. These actions without change are just going to exacerbate the issue.
- concordDance 3y agoA couple of degrees won't make much of a difference in where you can use your phone.
- undersuit 3y agoBut it did!
- wongarsu 3y agoA couple of degrees in average temperature can still translate to peak temperatures that are a lot higher than previously experienced in the region.
- gmuslera 3y agoA couple of degrees in yearly average of global temperature may mean 15-20 degrees in your local temperature for some day or week.
- VeninVidiaVicii 3y agoNot sure how true this is, even walking around inside a museum in Lisbon my iPhone was deemed too hot to charge using a MagSafe battery and promptly died.
- ethanbond 3y agoDid you see that one article about The 115F Heat That Is Killing Phones in Sardinia? I think it was on HN recently
- adhesive_wombat 3y agoIt actually can make a major difference because the differential shrinks quite a bit, and the rate of heat shedding is proportional to that difference. If your device has a maximum temperature of 50 degrees (probably dictated by the battery controller), it can shed 3 times less energy at 40 degrees than at 20 degrees. From there, every degree matters: at 45 degrees, it's 1/6 and at 47 it's 1/10. These are temperatures you can easily reach in the sun, in cars, or in enclosed spaces like backpacks.
- reverius42 3y agoThey were all going to be trashed after a few years anyway.
- mrguyorama 3y agoOh no, electronic waste doesn't get trashed, it gets shipped to africa where people with no other options dig through actual lead and other poison filled piles of discarded electronics for anything that might be sellable to a scrapper for the equivalent of a few pennies to pay for something to stop their belly from rumbling for a few hours. Look how efficient capitalism is guys! We reuse the metals in electronics! The buyers even get to make a tidy profit off this absolute human misery! Meanwhile Ukraine can't export it's grain because we refuse to give them the tools to fight off Russia, Alfalfa continues to be grown in a natural desert to be sold to another desert, and a person you have never heard of who has contributed nothing to anything other than a few meetings between other rich people who nobody has heard of takes their private plane across state lines so they can go to their favorite place for dinner.
- SAI_Peregrinus 3y agoWait, you're saying not everyone has a drawer full of old phones, chargers, and similar junk?
- mrguyorama 3y agoNo, some people believe they are doing "the right thing" and putting the in kiosks that say "recycling" at their nearest grocery store! They usually don't know that there's not really a first world system for recycling anything more complicated than a mono-material aluminum beverage can so it just gets sent to an african community where what I described above happens and the people running the kiosk make a little money by selling it to whoever runs those "recycling" centers in africa.