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https://archive.is/AEIl2#selection-563.0-570.0 https://archive.is/AEIl2#selection-563.0-570.0 > The agreement is unlikely to slow the efforts to pass legislati

https://archive.is/AEIl2#selection-563.0-570.0 https://archive.is/AEIl2#selection-563.0-570.0 > The agreement is unlikely to slow the efforts to pass legislation and impose regulation on the emerging technology. Lawmakers in Washington are racing to catch up to the fast-moving advances in artificial intelligence. And other governments are doing the same. Our government is just getting a firm grasp on email -- something tells me there's just going to be a hotbed of lobbyists writing the laws around AI... again.

ericmay 3y ago
> Our government is just getting a firm grasp on email Can you elaborate? I don't know what you mean by getting a firm grasp on email. I think even when I was consulting for state government at a time they used email just fine and it was normal and standard. Or do you mean regulatory frameworks?
- syntaxing 3y ago
  The median age of a senator is 65 years old. Not trying to be ageist but how many 65 years are exposed to “AI”? These are also the people who are making regulations and laws.
  - canjobear 3y ago
    Most of them are puppets of their staffers, who are younger.
    - atlasunshrugged 3y ago
      This is a misrepresentation. There are a few who are probably outright incapacitated where this is true (e.g. Feinstein) but most Congresspeople are firmly in the drivers seat. Now, whether they just default take the positions their staff tells them to on issues like AI they know little about is a different argument than whether they are puppets. I assure you, X rural senator whose core constituency cares about an issue like agriculture has their own opinions on agriculture.
  - mistrial9 3y ago
    people in that role have developed teams to support their every interest. You do not mention that most are also lawyers. It is daily and trivial to get detailed reports, negotiations and status via subordinate teams, in law practice. It is possible that these "old" 65 year olds are responding to power relationships between each other more than your concerns, and money trails that are not obvious more than your concerns, and yes, utterly wrong interpretations of some tech, like every reader here has.. With that said, the course of the Federal govt enacting law is in terrible shape by objective measures. This is not exactly a defense.. but the one-liner "they are old" is not very substantive.
- ooterness 3y ago
  Senator Ted Stevens in 2006: "I just the other day got... an Internet [email] was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday [Tuesday]. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially. [...] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes."
  - ke88y 3y ago
    It might be more informative to look at the current US Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation [1]. There are some reasonable people on the committee on both sides of the isle [2]. Noticeably missing are any true subject matter experts -- unlike Finance, Medicine, and especially Law, Scientists and Engineers almost never end up serving is legislatures. Not sure how to fix that. But I'm not sure technical illiteracy is the biggest issue. E.g., the TOP item on the Republican side of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation is that Bud Light's sponsorship of a transgender person was illegal advertising to minors. Important Stuff /s I think our problem these days is not just that Senators are technically illiterate but more that they and their core constituents all have terminal brain damage from decades of cable news and politics podcasts. [1] https://www.commerce.senate.gov/ https://www.commerce.senate.gov/ [2] https://www.commerce.senate.gov/members https://www.commerce.senate.gov/members

ericmay 3y ago

> Our government is just getting a firm grasp on email Can you elaborate? I don't know what you mean by getting a firm grasp on email. I think even when I was consulting for state government at a time they used email just fine and it was normal and standard. Or do you mean regulatory frameworks?

syntaxing 3y ago
The median age of a senator is 65 years old. Not trying to be ageist but how many 65 years are exposed to “AI”? These are also the people who are making regulations and laws.
- canjobear 3y ago
  Most of them are puppets of their staffers, who are younger.
  - atlasunshrugged 3y ago
    This is a misrepresentation. There are a few who are probably outright incapacitated where this is true (e.g. Feinstein) but most Congresspeople are firmly in the drivers seat. Now, whether they just default take the positions their staff tells them to on issues like AI they know little about is a different argument than whether they are puppets. I assure you, X rural senator whose core constituency cares about an issue like agriculture has their own opinions on agriculture.
- mistrial9 3y ago
  people in that role have developed teams to support their every interest. You do not mention that most are also lawyers. It is daily and trivial to get detailed reports, negotiations and status via subordinate teams, in law practice. It is possible that these "old" 65 year olds are responding to power relationships between each other more than your concerns, and money trails that are not obvious more than your concerns, and yes, utterly wrong interpretations of some tech, like every reader here has.. With that said, the course of the Federal govt enacting law is in terrible shape by objective measures. This is not exactly a defense.. but the one-liner "they are old" is not very substantive.
ooterness 3y ago
Senator Ted Stevens in 2006: "I just the other day got... an Internet [email] was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday [Tuesday]. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially. [...] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes."
- ke88y 3y ago
  It might be more informative to look at the current US Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation [1]. There are some reasonable people on the committee on both sides of the isle [2]. Noticeably missing are any true subject matter experts -- unlike Finance, Medicine, and especially Law, Scientists and Engineers almost never end up serving is legislatures. Not sure how to fix that. But I'm not sure technical illiteracy is the biggest issue. E.g., the TOP item on the Republican side of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation is that Bud Light's sponsorship of a transgender person was illegal advertising to minors. Important Stuff /s I think our problem these days is not just that Senators are technically illiterate but more that they and their core constituents all have terminal brain damage from decades of cable news and politics podcasts. [1] https://www.commerce.senate.gov/ https://www.commerce.senate.gov/ [2] https://www.commerce.senate.gov/members https://www.commerce.senate.gov/members