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Smarthome? Mine's local only, for good reasons. I don't have to care about some companys loss leader product eventually going from free to paid, or being disab

Smarthome? Mine's local only, for good reasons. I don't have to care about some companys loss leader product eventually going from free to paid, or being disabled alltogether because they decided that Smarthome isn't something they actually want to be in. Sucks for the planet, sucks for peoples wallets as most of that is probably going straight to the landfill :(

mrweasel 3y ago
There's a lot of technology product that should never have been produced. Try watching a video on YouTube reviewing random crap from Wish. You'd be in awe of the amount of absolute garbage that's produced. Most of it doesn't even work, so why bother making it and just jump to straight up robbing people. Much of the current IOT and smart home products are only slight better. Much of it will be useless once the manufacturer decides that they don't actually want to support a 10 year old device. Maybe they are bought out, go bankrupt, change business or the stockholders demand higher returns and they bump your subscription 10x. It somewhat impressive that we've managed to build business that are completely blind to the fact that a five year update cycle actually isn't that impressive, or that killing of services and products will generate excessive amounts of waste. It probably to complex to regulate correctly, but really it should be a rules that you place documentation and perhaps code in escrow when you release an IOT device, once you no longer wish to support that device, the code and documentation should be released.
- vxNsr 3y ago
  This could only work if you are forced to release the copyrights and patents as well. Or if they’re sold the buyer must maintain the service for some arbitrary number of years (say 10) until it’s unlikely a majority of the users are still using the service, or offer full refunds.
  - mrweasel 3y ago
    May we should just require all IOT devices to use SNMP. I always wanted to be able to monitor my home using Nagios anyway.

mrweasel 3y ago

There's a lot of technology product that should never have been produced. Try watching a video on YouTube reviewing random crap from Wish. You'd be in awe of the amount of absolute garbage that's produced. Most of it doesn't even work, so why bother making it and just jump to straight up robbing people. Much of the current IOT and smart home products are only slight better. Much of it will be useless once the manufacturer decides that they don't actually want to support a 10 year old device. Maybe they are bought out, go bankrupt, change business or the stockholders demand higher returns and they bump your subscription 10x. It somewhat impressive that we've managed to build business that are completely blind to the fact that a five year update cycle actually isn't that impressive, or that killing of services and products will generate excessive amounts of waste. It probably to complex to regulate correctly, but really it should be a rules that you place documentation and perhaps code in escrow when you release an IOT device, once you no longer wish to support that device, the code and documentation should be released.

vxNsr 3y ago
This could only work if you are forced to release the copyrights and patents as well. Or if they’re sold the buyer must maintain the service for some arbitrary number of years (say 10) until it’s unlikely a majority of the users are still using the service, or offer full refunds.
- mrweasel 3y ago
  May we should just require all IOT devices to use SNMP. I always wanted to be able to monitor my home using Nagios anyway.