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It feels like a missed opportunity to not show each pixel's worksheet: It would be cool if you could click on each pixel, and it opens a PDF scan of that person

It feels like a missed opportunity to not show each pixel's worksheet: It would be cool if you could click on each pixel, and it opens a PDF scan of that persons calculations.

dahart 3y ago
Sadly you can’t do that on a site without having people post very inappropriate things, so it would require a human moderator, which I speculate makes it unlikely to happen.
- hollowturtle 3y ago
  It can be done. To submit a pixel you have to take a photo proof of your calculations on paper, it’s already “moderated”
  - quadrature 3y ago
    Interesting, how come there are obviously incorrect pixels ?.
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    - simplicio 3y ago
      Think they're just people making math mistakes (one of the reasons why we don't usually implement shaders by having people compute values by hand). If you compare them to nearby "correct" pixels, they usually just have one of the three RGB values that are sharply different.
    - eat_veggies 3y ago
      the moderators are checking that the pixel was computed by hand, not that it's correct
      - dahart 3y ago
        The page does actually say they want to see intermediate results “so we can validate your work.” (Edit that quote has been removed now.) But there’s no promise that they will. The photo feature may be more of an automated speed bump, a way to reduce silly answers and pixel spam, and let people self-select, than an active human moderation tool. Moderating is boring and expensive in time and/or money, why would anyone actually sift through thousands of hand-written pages of arithmetic?
        sb8244 3y ago
        Validate is slightly vague here. I interpreted it as "so we can validate your work [was done by hand]."
        dahart 3y ago
        Fair enough, I guess it is open to interpretation. The language on the page has changed now, the quote I posted is no longer there.
        someweirdperson 3y ago
        > why would anyone actually sift through thousands of hand-written pages of arithmetic? 2840 pages. Doesn't seem crazy. Page looks like it was written by hand? Next. At two pages per second it's less than half an hour of work.
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    - bobsmooth 3y ago
      Some of the calculations are pretty big and the operation to trim LSD is easy to mess up if you forget to round.
  - dahart 3y ago
    Are you certain a human is inspecting the image? Or is this “moderation” currently automated? Yes obviously it “can” be done, I’m suggesting it won’t for long, because there’s a big difference between submitting something to the site mods versus submitting something that is anonymously exposed to the public. I’m saying this as the owner of a site where I made the mistake of allowing crowd-sourced image content to be anonymously served to others. It didn’t take long before not only was there NSFW content, but there was also illegal content. * edit OH BTW I only just noticed this site was created by IQ, who has already dealt with this exact issue on ShaderToy and had to restrict and remove user submitted images due to abuse! The decision to not show people’s images is almost certainly intentional and by design.
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It feels like a missed opportunity to not show each pixel's worksheet: It would be cool if you could click on each pixel, and it opens a PDF scan of that persons calculations.

dahart 3y ago

Sadly you can’t do that on a site without having people post very inappropriate things, so it would require a human moderator, which I speculate makes it unlikely to happen.

hollowturtle 3y ago
It can be done. To submit a pixel you have to take a photo proof of your calculations on paper, it’s already “moderated”
- quadrature 3y ago
  Interesting, how come there are obviously incorrect pixels ?.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - simplicio 3y ago
    Think they're just people making math mistakes (one of the reasons why we don't usually implement shaders by having people compute values by hand). If you compare them to nearby "correct" pixels, they usually just have one of the three RGB values that are sharply different.
  - eat_veggies 3y ago
    the moderators are checking that the pixel was computed by hand, not that it's correct
    - dahart 3y ago
      The page does actually say they want to see intermediate results “so we can validate your work.” (Edit that quote has been removed now.) But there’s no promise that they will. The photo feature may be more of an automated speed bump, a way to reduce silly answers and pixel spam, and let people self-select, than an active human moderation tool. Moderating is boring and expensive in time and/or money, why would anyone actually sift through thousands of hand-written pages of arithmetic?
      - sb8244 3y ago
        Validate is slightly vague here. I interpreted it as "so we can validate your work [was done by hand]."
        dahart 3y ago
        Fair enough, I guess it is open to interpretation. The language on the page has changed now, the quote I posted is no longer there.
      - someweirdperson 3y ago
        > why would anyone actually sift through thousands of hand-written pages of arithmetic? 2840 pages. Doesn't seem crazy. Page looks like it was written by hand? Next. At two pages per second it's less than half an hour of work.
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  - bobsmooth 3y ago
    Some of the calculations are pretty big and the operation to trim LSD is easy to mess up if you forget to round.
- dahart 3y ago
  Are you certain a human is inspecting the image? Or is this “moderation” currently automated? Yes obviously it “can” be done, I’m suggesting it won’t for long, because there’s a big difference between submitting something to the site mods versus submitting something that is anonymously exposed to the public. I’m saying this as the owner of a site where I made the mistake of allowing crowd-sourced image content to be anonymously served to others. It didn’t take long before not only was there NSFW content, but there was also illegal content. * edit OH BTW I only just noticed this site was created by IQ, who has already dealt with this exact issue on ShaderToy and had to restrict and remove user submitted images due to abuse! The decision to not show people’s images is almost certainly intentional and by design.
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