> And I'm not sure how your weird rant about child services is even related to that That's the only alternative you/society offers for these children. So that'

> And I'm not sure how your weird rant about child services is even related to that That's the only alternative you/society offers for these children. So that's what you should compare to. I get that you don't want to do that, because it totally demolishes your argument, but it still is the only alternative.