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And the company can give your data to the government with no recourse available to you and no warrant required from the government.
by tarxvf 3y ago
And the company can give your data to the government with no recourse available to you and no warrant required from the government.
- tifik 3y agoIf they choose to sure, but I dont see what incentive they would have. After all, the post is about a company removing products from a market rather than being subject to a law that would allow the gov to force them to do so.
- smoldesu 3y ago> but I dont see what incentive they would have. They are frequently subpoenaed for information, and turn over that data more often than not: https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/us.html https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/us.html
- tifik 3y agoYeah, because they are asked to/legally required. I was questioning incentives to hand over information on their own accord, just because they can.
- smoldesu 3y agoAll of these are their own accord. That's even what OP's article is about - if Apple is legally required to break their encryption in the EU, then they will discontinue their product. Let's not pretend this is a privacy-motivated decision. Where Apple doesn't have negotiating power (eg. China) they have been forced to compromise user safety and privacy[0]. We live in a post XKeyscore world, pretending like this doesn't also happen in America or the UK is a bedtime story for helpless capitalists. [0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351 edit: s/EU/UK
- MichaelZuo 3y agoHuh? Isn't this story about the possibility of the UK government legally requiring Apple to do something?
- algas 3y agoWhich is a good reason to avoid giving your data to either one in the first place. If I don't have a choice though, I'll take the company over the government any day.
- CamperBob2 3y agoDifficulty: "Any day" meaning 1917 in Russia or 1933 in Germany. (Edit: for my next trick, I will read the post more carefully before replying)
- detourdog 3y agoI don't understand this comment the Tsar and the Nazi's were both governments. Another good example is the Dutch housing all the data in an building that was used to track down and kill the right people. The data existing is the problem. The ideal situation is that there is no data.
- CamperBob2 3y agoD'oh, you're right, I misread the GP. Finish coffee first, then post.
- detourdog 3y agoI had to double check everything to make sure it wasn't me.