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It's because SMS is simply inferior to Whatsapp, Messenger, Instagram, Line, kakaotalk, Snapchat, Signal, etc unless you own an iPhone. All of them are cross pl

It's because SMS is simply inferior to Whatsapp, Messenger, Instagram, Line, kakaotalk, Snapchat, Signal, etc unless you own an iPhone. All of them are cross platform and aren't intentionally broken for people who don't have or use iMessage. I personally avoid giving out my phone number as much as possible as all the other platforms have much better tools for communication, blocking, media, etc.

withinboredom 3y ago
To add to that, I can use the WhatsApp desktop app at work. Can’t do that with iMessage.
- lostlogin 3y ago
  Why not? I do. Non Apple work machine?
  - withinboredom 3y ago
    Of course, it’s Linux.
  - Larrikin 3y ago
    Signing into your personal accounts on a work machine is a terrible idea, as it opens up your personal accounts to search if there is a lawsuit (against you or against the company). That's assuming it's not already strictly forbidden by the company rules to prevent you from sending yourself confidential data. Also outside of programmers, IT, and designers, you rarely get a choice in the company issued laptop. It never makes sense for a company to issue more expensive Apple computers instead of ThinkPads or Dell computers.
    - lostlogin 3y ago
      > Signing into your personal accounts on a work machine is a terrible idea, as it opens up your personal accounts to search if there is a lawsuit The machine is mine and I do work on it. Thanks for the concern but I’m not worried about getting sued. I’m sure it’s happened here previously, but it’s not like the US. > Also outside of programmers, IT, and designers, you rarely get a choice in the company issued laptop. It never makes sense for a company to issue more expensive Apple computers instead of ThinkPads or Dell computers. I’m not one of those professionals and I can get my job done quicker on a Mac. My employer doesn’t dictate how I get things done and paid for the machine I want. I think this is a good thing. Any job that requires a crappy trackpad isn't a job worth having.
      - vxNsr 3y ago
        Anyone working on a trackpad all day probably isn’t doing serious work ;) see we can all make unkind generalizations.
        lostlogin 3y ago
        Touché. Just seeing those laptops is frustrating. What is the point of the trackpad if you have to use a mouse?
        vxNsr 3y ago
        When you need to travel between workstations I work docked all day, once in a while I need to be mobile, but it’s much easier to work on one machine vs two.
      - viraptor 3y ago
        > The machine is mine and I do work on it. > My employer doesn’t dictate how I get things done and paid for the machine I want. That is very much not your machine. If your employer ever gets sued, or runs into some investigation, or some internal dispute escalates enough, all the data on it is now likely available for them for review. Given large enough company and enough people, you'll get that "preserve documents for discovery" email one day. It happens outside of the US too.
throwaway1777 3y ago
To be clear sms sucks on iPhones also. iMessage is also better then sms though.
kingrazor 3y ago
I've never really understood what people mean by this. For me, iMessage is indistinguishable from SMS, except for the color of the messages, and the fact that I can use iMessage over WiFi.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  Being able to use it without a mobile network seems pretty distinguishable. As well as not being subject to international charges. And then of course the vastly higher fidelity of pictures and video sent via iMessage.
  - kingrazor 3y ago
    It's easy for me to forget how different my circumstances are from most other people. I'm far more likely to be in a place where I have no WiFi than a place where I have no cell service. And I don't personally know anyone outside the US, so I don't send international messages. I guess I've never paid enough attention to the fidelity of pictures I'm sent or am sending over SMS to notice a quality difference.
- crottypeter 3y ago
  Group messages. If I send an SMS message to a group of people, they all see a message from me. They don't know who else got it. And if they reply, they reply only to me. Is your experience different? WhatsApp (and I think iMessage) allow me to create a group with a name/purpose and send messages to the group and receive replies to the whole group. (P.S. I went from dumb-phones to Android and have limited exposure to iMessage's feature-set).
  - kingrazor 3y ago
    That used to be my experience years ago, but now whether I use android or iphone, I see the whole group.
  - wtallis 3y ago
    > If I send an SMS message to a group of people, they all see a message from me. They don't know who else got it. And if they reply, they reply only to me. Is your experience different? Does MMS not exist in your country?

withinboredom 3y ago

To add to that, I can use the WhatsApp desktop app at work. Can’t do that with iMessage.

lostlogin 3y ago
Why not? I do. Non Apple work machine?
- withinboredom 3y ago
  Of course, it’s Linux.
- Larrikin 3y ago
  Signing into your personal accounts on a work machine is a terrible idea, as it opens up your personal accounts to search if there is a lawsuit (against you or against the company). That's assuming it's not already strictly forbidden by the company rules to prevent you from sending yourself confidential data. Also outside of programmers, IT, and designers, you rarely get a choice in the company issued laptop. It never makes sense for a company to issue more expensive Apple computers instead of ThinkPads or Dell computers.
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    > Signing into your personal accounts on a work machine is a terrible idea, as it opens up your personal accounts to search if there is a lawsuit The machine is mine and I do work on it. Thanks for the concern but I’m not worried about getting sued. I’m sure it’s happened here previously, but it’s not like the US. > Also outside of programmers, IT, and designers, you rarely get a choice in the company issued laptop. It never makes sense for a company to issue more expensive Apple computers instead of ThinkPads or Dell computers. I’m not one of those professionals and I can get my job done quicker on a Mac. My employer doesn’t dictate how I get things done and paid for the machine I want. I think this is a good thing. Any job that requires a crappy trackpad isn't a job worth having.
    - vxNsr 3y ago
      Anyone working on a trackpad all day probably isn’t doing serious work ;) see we can all make unkind generalizations.
      - lostlogin 3y ago
        Touché. Just seeing those laptops is frustrating. What is the point of the trackpad if you have to use a mouse?
        vxNsr 3y ago
        When you need to travel between workstations I work docked all day, once in a while I need to be mobile, but it’s much easier to work on one machine vs two.
    - viraptor 3y ago
      > The machine is mine and I do work on it. > My employer doesn’t dictate how I get things done and paid for the machine I want. That is very much not your machine. If your employer ever gets sued, or runs into some investigation, or some internal dispute escalates enough, all the data on it is now likely available for them for review. Given large enough company and enough people, you'll get that "preserve documents for discovery" email one day. It happens outside of the US too.

throwaway1777 3y ago

To be clear sms sucks on iPhones also. iMessage is also better then sms though.

kingrazor 3y ago

I've never really understood what people mean by this. For me, iMessage is indistinguishable from SMS, except for the color of the messages, and the fact that I can use iMessage over WiFi.

lotsofpulp 3y ago
Being able to use it without a mobile network seems pretty distinguishable. As well as not being subject to international charges. And then of course the vastly higher fidelity of pictures and video sent via iMessage.
- kingrazor 3y ago
  It's easy for me to forget how different my circumstances are from most other people. I'm far more likely to be in a place where I have no WiFi than a place where I have no cell service. And I don't personally know anyone outside the US, so I don't send international messages. I guess I've never paid enough attention to the fidelity of pictures I'm sent or am sending over SMS to notice a quality difference.
crottypeter 3y ago
Group messages. If I send an SMS message to a group of people, they all see a message from me. They don't know who else got it. And if they reply, they reply only to me. Is your experience different? WhatsApp (and I think iMessage) allow me to create a group with a name/purpose and send messages to the group and receive replies to the whole group. (P.S. I went from dumb-phones to Android and have limited exposure to iMessage's feature-set).
- kingrazor 3y ago
  That used to be my experience years ago, but now whether I use android or iphone, I see the whole group.
- wtallis 3y ago
  > If I send an SMS message to a group of people, they all see a message from me. They don't know who else got it. And if they reply, they reply only to me. Is your experience different? Does MMS not exist in your country?