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It's true, they merely have enough cash on hand to fund a small army, enough legal power to crush you in court with anything you attempt. Make no mistake: if A

It's true, they merely have enough cash on hand to fund a small army, enough legal power to crush you in court with anything you attempt. Make no mistake: if Apple needed to get someone killed, they would. They're not some miraculous pinnacles of good in a sea of evil. It's just that they merely need to flex the law at you to destroy your life forever. Apple is no different, they'll hire the Pinkertons and break your fingers should they find the need to. Carnegie Steel did it, Apple's not above it either.

sebzim4500 3y ago
>Make no mistake: if Apple needed to get someone killed, they would. Ok, I'll play along. Suppose Tim Cook wakes up tomorrow and decides for some reason he wants me dead. How exactly does he do it?
- wonderwonder 3y ago
  I would assume he brainwashes a male model to kill you. Sorry for the Zoolander reference. I couldn't help it
  - JPws_Prntr_Fngr 3y ago
    But why male models?
- KeplerBoy 3y ago
  Hiring a hitman to do it? There are plenty of unhinged people in this world who do illegal shit for enough money. Do you think some Ex-Wagner mercenary would pass up that offer?
- locustous 3y ago
  SOP is to have a team "suicide" you.
  - JPws_Prntr_Fngr 3y ago
    It doesn't even have to be good. It can be a "robbery" where you get professional-grade double-tapped on your front lawn but nothing's taken, or a "suicide" where you hang yourself from a tree whilst simultaneously shotgunning yourself in the chest. The news will just parrot the local cops' PR statement.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  Do you live in China? If so, they probably just send a Foxconn employee or PRC representitive with some sort of firearm.
- ohgodplsno 3y ago
  You lack creativity. You have multiple billions available for that. Where do you want your remains to disappear ? Hell, even sharks with lasers isn't far fetched with that amount of money. But all playfulness aside: * Pay professional hitmen. * Pay a hobo enough to go beat you up in your home. * Pay enough people enough money to kill you pretty much anywhere. What are they going to do, plead in front of a judge that sees 90% of his murder cases unsolved or solved through guilty pleas that Tim Cook gave them a wad of cash when all they saw was a subordinate of a subordinate of a subordinate ? There's nothing fancy about it. Especially with an economy that drives people to drastic measures: a huge wad of cash that you're guaranteed to keep is enough for most people.
  - sebzim4500 3y ago
    > * Pay professional hitmen You mean, pay an undercover cop who is advertising himself as a professional hitman? > * Pay a hobo enough to go beat you up in your home. He'll pay the hobo, and hobo will run off with the money > all they saw was a subordinate of a subordinate of a subordinate This is even more crazy than the earlier suggestions. You think there is going to be a chain of subordinates at apple who will all go along with a murder conspiracy? Try arranging a surprise party with five people, see how well people can keep a secret.
    - ohgodplsno 3y ago
      "My favorite multinational trillion dollar worth conglomerate that has a history of not caring about human rights when it comes to the production of their devices surely would never do that!" You're naïve. Less than 100 years ago the Pinkertons were still murdering workers and nothing happened to them.
- onetokeoverthe 3y ago
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- peoplefromibiza 3y ago
  > How exactly does he do it? Just imagine this: Tim Cook travel expenses amount to an half a million dollar per year. travel expenses only. A professional hit man costs between 1/100th and 1/33th of that. Tim has to simply give up on a pair of new shoes that year.
  - Brusco_RF 3y ago
    I am confused. Are you arguing that this is a thing that happens? If so, I'd like to see any shred of evidence whatsoever. On the other hand, we know that governments do this sort of thing all the time.
    - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
      > I am confused. Are you arguing that this is a thing that happens? they simply have better tools than hitmen, but, for example https://www.businessinsider.in/policy/news/former-ceo-of-amazon-mexico-paid-a-hitman-to-gun-down-his-wife-in-front-of-her-2-children-court-hears/articleshow/92165508.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/policy/news/former-ceo-of-ama... https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/clearly-lasik-co-founder-gets-20-year-sentence-for-murder-for-hire-plot/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/clearly-lasik-co-f... > we know that governments do this sort of thing all the time. they also have better tools than hiring hitmen contract killing is a fraction of all the homicides OP asked how the multi billionaire CEO of a trillion dollars company could kill someone He could simply hire an hitman, it would cost him peanuts If the victim is also using one of the products the company makes, they would also be in possession of all the information an hitman would need to complete his task, no investigation would be necessary
  - fastball 3y ago
    Where do you find a hitman for $5k?
    - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
      Costs vary: In Australia, contract offers ranged from $500 to $100,000, with an average of $16,500. One undercover investigator, hired as a hit man more than 60 times in 20 years, lists his largest proposed payoff as $200,000 in jewels (and that was just the down payment) and his stingiest as “seven Atari computer games, three dollar bills, and $2.30 in nickels and dimes.” Some of the highest-profile hits nowadays happen in Russia, where the rise of wild-west capitalism has led to a boom in contract killings, with victims including politicians, editors and journalists, businessmen, even poets. How much do you think it would cost to hire a Russian blackop/elite troop fleeing from his country?
- nashashmi 3y ago
  Depends on your crime. If you outed his human rights overlook, then he will send you on a vacation to the place with the Human rights violation. And somehow you will get in trouble with the mob there because for some reason they don't like you for threatening their jobs. If you don't take his vacation offer, he will invite you to a party on his dime. If you don't attend, he will use your location data, make it seem like you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. And depending on the severity and nature of your crime, the outcome will be just low ball enough to make it seem like apple needs to do something bigger than focus on human rights, like making better devices for your security.

sebzim4500 3y ago

>Make no mistake: if Apple needed to get someone killed, they would. Ok, I'll play along. Suppose Tim Cook wakes up tomorrow and decides for some reason he wants me dead. How exactly does he do it?

wonderwonder 3y ago
I would assume he brainwashes a male model to kill you. Sorry for the Zoolander reference. I couldn't help it
- JPws_Prntr_Fngr 3y ago
  But why male models?
KeplerBoy 3y ago
Hiring a hitman to do it? There are plenty of unhinged people in this world who do illegal shit for enough money. Do you think some Ex-Wagner mercenary would pass up that offer?
locustous 3y ago
SOP is to have a team "suicide" you.
- JPws_Prntr_Fngr 3y ago
  It doesn't even have to be good. It can be a "robbery" where you get professional-grade double-tapped on your front lawn but nothing's taken, or a "suicide" where you hang yourself from a tree whilst simultaneously shotgunning yourself in the chest. The news will just parrot the local cops' PR statement.
smoldesu 3y ago
Do you live in China? If so, they probably just send a Foxconn employee or PRC representitive with some sort of firearm.
ohgodplsno 3y ago
You lack creativity. You have multiple billions available for that. Where do you want your remains to disappear ? Hell, even sharks with lasers isn't far fetched with that amount of money. But all playfulness aside: * Pay professional hitmen. * Pay a hobo enough to go beat you up in your home. * Pay enough people enough money to kill you pretty much anywhere. What are they going to do, plead in front of a judge that sees 90% of his murder cases unsolved or solved through guilty pleas that Tim Cook gave them a wad of cash when all they saw was a subordinate of a subordinate of a subordinate ? There's nothing fancy about it. Especially with an economy that drives people to drastic measures: a huge wad of cash that you're guaranteed to keep is enough for most people.
- sebzim4500 3y ago
  > * Pay professional hitmen You mean, pay an undercover cop who is advertising himself as a professional hitman? > * Pay a hobo enough to go beat you up in your home. He'll pay the hobo, and hobo will run off with the money > all they saw was a subordinate of a subordinate of a subordinate This is even more crazy than the earlier suggestions. You think there is going to be a chain of subordinates at apple who will all go along with a murder conspiracy? Try arranging a surprise party with five people, see how well people can keep a secret.
  - ohgodplsno 3y ago
    "My favorite multinational trillion dollar worth conglomerate that has a history of not caring about human rights when it comes to the production of their devices surely would never do that!" You're naïve. Less than 100 years ago the Pinkertons were still murdering workers and nothing happened to them.
onetokeoverthe 3y ago
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peoplefromibiza 3y ago
> How exactly does he do it? Just imagine this: Tim Cook travel expenses amount to an half a million dollar per year. travel expenses only. A professional hit man costs between 1/100th and 1/33th of that. Tim has to simply give up on a pair of new shoes that year.
- Brusco_RF 3y ago
  I am confused. Are you arguing that this is a thing that happens? If so, I'd like to see any shred of evidence whatsoever. On the other hand, we know that governments do this sort of thing all the time.
  - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
    > I am confused. Are you arguing that this is a thing that happens? they simply have better tools than hitmen, but, for example https://www.businessinsider.in/policy/news/former-ceo-of-amazon-mexico-paid-a-hitman-to-gun-down-his-wife-in-front-of-her-2-children-court-hears/articleshow/92165508.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/policy/news/former-ceo-of-ama... https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/clearly-lasik-co-founder-gets-20-year-sentence-for-murder-for-hire-plot/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/clearly-lasik-co-f... > we know that governments do this sort of thing all the time. they also have better tools than hiring hitmen contract killing is a fraction of all the homicides OP asked how the multi billionaire CEO of a trillion dollars company could kill someone He could simply hire an hitman, it would cost him peanuts If the victim is also using one of the products the company makes, they would also be in possession of all the information an hitman would need to complete his task, no investigation would be necessary
- fastball 3y ago
  Where do you find a hitman for $5k?
  - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
    Costs vary: In Australia, contract offers ranged from $500 to $100,000, with an average of $16,500. One undercover investigator, hired as a hit man more than 60 times in 20 years, lists his largest proposed payoff as $200,000 in jewels (and that was just the down payment) and his stingiest as “seven Atari computer games, three dollar bills, and $2.30 in nickels and dimes.” Some of the highest-profile hits nowadays happen in Russia, where the rise of wild-west capitalism has led to a boom in contract killings, with victims including politicians, editors and journalists, businessmen, even poets. How much do you think it would cost to hire a Russian blackop/elite troop fleeing from his country?
nashashmi 3y ago
Depends on your crime. If you outed his human rights overlook, then he will send you on a vacation to the place with the Human rights violation. And somehow you will get in trouble with the mob there because for some reason they don't like you for threatening their jobs. If you don't take his vacation offer, he will invite you to a party on his dime. If you don't attend, he will use your location data, make it seem like you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. And depending on the severity and nature of your crime, the outcome will be just low ball enough to make it seem like apple needs to do something bigger than focus on human rights, like making better devices for your security.