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Should no one on HN share their ideas? Must they implement them all themselves to satisfy you? Do you think you're improving HN by discouraging people from sh

Should no one on HN share their ideas? Must they implement them all themselves to satisfy you? Do you think you're improving HN by discouraging people from sharing ideas they don't have the time to implement?

Cthulhu_ 3y ago
Ideas are cheap though, and I can see how people get miffed at people coming up with ideas, if the reader assumes whoever came up with the idea that someone else should put in the work. But seriously, for every 100 startups that post their Show HN on here, there's been 10.000 ideas but only 1 that will eventually translate into a product.
- VikingCoder 3y ago
  Is anyone under the illusion that this will become a product? No, it's just neat. And I realized there's a way to make it available in more places. If we can convince the mods to post a guideline, "please don't share ideas for others to implement", then that's fine. I'll try to abide. Until then, I think it's stupid to complain about other people sharing their ideas.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    Let's try s/complaining/challenging/ and see how that changes the actual spirit of the comment.
    - filmgirlcw 3y ago
      You are purposefully being an asshole and then double and tripling down on it, that’s the spirit of the comment.
dylan604 3y ago
I'm not the one making the suggestion that someone else do something on a hacker board where the common thread between readers is that hacker spirit. A hacker with an idea is one of the most [useful|dangerous] combinations. Sure this isn't SO where you say here's what I tried, here's what it didn't do, help? And yes, I'm sure there are plenty of examples of someone saying "oh, cool idea, stand back and hold my beer" then 2 specific days later "Show HN"
reaperducer 3y ago
Do you think you're improving HN by discouraging people from sharing ideas they don't have the time to implement? I'm with you. I think the constant "Do it yourself, everything is trivial!" meme has a chilling effect on people who would like to contribute their ideas. I also think it's part of the reason that some people get turned off by Linux. Someone will write, "I wish Linux did x," and the response they'll get is "Well, the beauty of Linux is that you can write your own drivers and compile your own kernel all by yourself!" No, not everyone can. Some people have families and jobs and other obligations, responsibilities, and restrictions that prevent them. That doesn't mean their ideas aren't good ideas. The fact that their ideas are not welcomed by the core Linux community because they can't roll their own is one of the things keeping Linux back. Some people are "idea people" and some people are "execution people." There are entire industries built around both of these things. Very few people are good at both.
aceazzameen 3y ago
I'm with you. Absolutely nothing wrong with throwing an idea out into the wild for someone else to pick up. That kind of stuff is community building.

Cthulhu_ 3y ago

Ideas are cheap though, and I can see how people get miffed at people coming up with ideas, if the reader assumes whoever came up with the idea that someone else should put in the work. But seriously, for every 100 startups that post their Show HN on here, there's been 10.000 ideas but only 1 that will eventually translate into a product.

VikingCoder 3y ago
Is anyone under the illusion that this will become a product? No, it's just neat. And I realized there's a way to make it available in more places. If we can convince the mods to post a guideline, "please don't share ideas for others to implement", then that's fine. I'll try to abide. Until then, I think it's stupid to complain about other people sharing their ideas.
- dylan604 3y ago
  Let's try s/complaining/challenging/ and see how that changes the actual spirit of the comment.
  - filmgirlcw 3y ago
    You are purposefully being an asshole and then double and tripling down on it, that’s the spirit of the comment.

dylan604 3y ago

I'm not the one making the suggestion that someone else do something on a hacker board where the common thread between readers is that hacker spirit. A hacker with an idea is one of the most [useful|dangerous] combinations. Sure this isn't SO where you say here's what I tried, here's what it didn't do, help? And yes, I'm sure there are plenty of examples of someone saying "oh, cool idea, stand back and hold my beer" then 2 specific days later "Show HN"

reaperducer 3y ago

Do you think you're improving HN by discouraging people from sharing ideas they don't have the time to implement? I'm with you. I think the constant "Do it yourself, everything is trivial!" meme has a chilling effect on people who would like to contribute their ideas. I also think it's part of the reason that some people get turned off by Linux. Someone will write, "I wish Linux did x," and the response they'll get is "Well, the beauty of Linux is that you can write your own drivers and compile your own kernel all by yourself!" No, not everyone can. Some people have families and jobs and other obligations, responsibilities, and restrictions that prevent them. That doesn't mean their ideas aren't good ideas. The fact that their ideas are not welcomed by the core Linux community because they can't roll their own is one of the things keeping Linux back. Some people are "idea people" and some people are "execution people." There are entire industries built around both of these things. Very few people are good at both.

aceazzameen 3y ago

I'm with you. Absolutely nothing wrong with throwing an idea out into the wild for someone else to pick up. That kind of stuff is community building.