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I have to admit, for technical folks like ourselves, I don't understand why you care what options the dialog presents. Just use a "Kill Sticky" plugin to nuke t

I have to admit, for technical folks like ourselves, I don't understand why you care what options the dialog presents. Just use a "Kill Sticky" plugin to nuke the stupid dialog so you can read the page, or even Accept them, and then instruct your browser to do whatever you like with the cookies the site creates (i.e. delete them). It's all in your hands, the popup dialog doesn't do anything you can't do yourself.

master-lincoln 3y ago
you should care because often this agreement is not about the technical detail of cookies, but allowing the company you are interacting with to share data about you with 3rd parties.
- coldpie 3y ago
  If you think which HTML div element you click on to dismiss a sticky banner has any bearing whatsoever on how your data is handled server-side, I've got a trip to the Titanic in an Oceangate submersible to sell you.
  - Etheryte 3y ago
    Legally it does, at least if you're in the EU. The only reason websites are slow on the uptake around this is that the legal gears are slow, however we have seen many considerable fines in this space in the last few years and things are improving.
- bad_username 3y ago
  It's also in direct violation of GDPR.
explaininjs 3y ago
Learned helplessness. Teach the citizens that the only thing protecting them from the Big Scary Internet is their benevolent government. Meanwhile the politicians collect millions from the mass media companies that lobbied for the god-awful implementation of the law we all ended up with, and as everyone gets worn down into Accepting All always, they simultaneously forget that their User Agent holds all the cards (or in this case, cookies), and it can be instructed to do anything the User wants with them.
- ethbr0 3y ago
  Did you just take a problem that free market tech created and blame it on the government? ;) User agent sovereignty would be nice... except the most used browser and 1/2 of smartphones are controlled by Google, the largest ad tracking company on the planet. We're way past the 90s.
  - rglullis 3y ago
    Is it the time of the day where I make Brave advocacy again? Brave has shown that we can have an user agent that is aligned with the user, even if the browser engine is made by Google.
    - ohgodplsno 3y ago
      The same Brave that is selling data for AI companies, which may or may not include personal data ? I'd say it's probably not a good day for Brave advocacy. Neither is any other day.
      - rglullis 3y ago
        That's a very good example of "argument-by-Google". You know what conclusion you want to achieve, so you just go around looking for statements that are either taken out of context or misunderstood and that can be backed by a (shallow) google search. For the record: go back to the article that you are (wrongly) alluding to [0] and see how much the author has retracted. Also, see the response from Brave's Chief of Search. I "have" to keep advocating them because all the opposition that is presented is always based on false information, biased and prejudiced and clearly made by people who never used the browser or tried to understand the value proposition. There are tons of things to criticize about Brave (their "partnerships" with Binance and Solana, their complete lack of interest in making BAT an actual currency for payments online, them completely losing the train of decentralized social media) but none of that ever comes up from the detractors, only this kind of bullshit like the one you bring up. [0]: https://stackdiary.com/brave-selling-copyrighted-data-for-ai-training/ https://stackdiary.com/brave-selling-copyrighted-data-for-ai...
guy98238710 3y ago
Or just use private window in the browser and then close it.
samstave 3y ago
I have to admit, for the non-technical folks like not-ourselves, I don't understand why people dont know about such "simple lifehacks" --> You're knowledge is sound, but rather than condescedingly relegate people to your 'simple' workaround - the ENTIRE premise of cookies and tracking against ones implicit desire to be private, is assinine.
IanCal 3y ago
That assumes that the entity ignoring the law is operating within it to the extent of requiring your consent. GDPR goes much wider than explicitly cookies.

master-lincoln 3y ago

you should care because often this agreement is not about the technical detail of cookies, but allowing the company you are interacting with to share data about you with 3rd parties.

coldpie 3y ago
If you think which HTML div element you click on to dismiss a sticky banner has any bearing whatsoever on how your data is handled server-side, I've got a trip to the Titanic in an Oceangate submersible to sell you.
- Etheryte 3y ago
  Legally it does, at least if you're in the EU. The only reason websites are slow on the uptake around this is that the legal gears are slow, however we have seen many considerable fines in this space in the last few years and things are improving.
bad_username 3y ago
It's also in direct violation of GDPR.

explaininjs 3y ago

Learned helplessness. Teach the citizens that the only thing protecting them from the Big Scary Internet is their benevolent government. Meanwhile the politicians collect millions from the mass media companies that lobbied for the god-awful implementation of the law we all ended up with, and as everyone gets worn down into Accepting All always, they simultaneously forget that their User Agent holds all the cards (or in this case, cookies), and it can be instructed to do anything the User wants with them.

ethbr0 3y ago
Did you just take a problem that free market tech created and blame it on the government? ;) User agent sovereignty would be nice... except the most used browser and 1/2 of smartphones are controlled by Google, the largest ad tracking company on the planet. We're way past the 90s.
- rglullis 3y ago
  Is it the time of the day where I make Brave advocacy again? Brave has shown that we can have an user agent that is aligned with the user, even if the browser engine is made by Google.
  - ohgodplsno 3y ago
    The same Brave that is selling data for AI companies, which may or may not include personal data ? I'd say it's probably not a good day for Brave advocacy. Neither is any other day.
    - rglullis 3y ago
      That's a very good example of "argument-by-Google". You know what conclusion you want to achieve, so you just go around looking for statements that are either taken out of context or misunderstood and that can be backed by a (shallow) google search. For the record: go back to the article that you are (wrongly) alluding to [0] and see how much the author has retracted. Also, see the response from Brave's Chief of Search. I "have" to keep advocating them because all the opposition that is presented is always based on false information, biased and prejudiced and clearly made by people who never used the browser or tried to understand the value proposition. There are tons of things to criticize about Brave (their "partnerships" with Binance and Solana, their complete lack of interest in making BAT an actual currency for payments online, them completely losing the train of decentralized social media) but none of that ever comes up from the detractors, only this kind of bullshit like the one you bring up. [0]: https://stackdiary.com/brave-selling-copyrighted-data-for-ai-training/ https://stackdiary.com/brave-selling-copyrighted-data-for-ai...

guy98238710 3y ago

Or just use private window in the browser and then close it.

samstave 3y ago

I have to admit, for the non-technical folks like not-ourselves, I don't understand why people dont know about such "simple lifehacks" --> You're knowledge is sound, but rather than condescedingly relegate people to your 'simple' workaround - the ENTIRE premise of cookies and tracking against ones implicit desire to be private, is assinine.

IanCal 3y ago

That assumes that the entity ignoring the law is operating within it to the extent of requiring your consent. GDPR goes much wider than explicitly cookies.