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Everything about this smells like "we're going to say we're open-source and that you're always fully in control" and then you read the fine print and find out t

by jrm4 3y ago

Everything about this smells like "we're going to say we're open-source and that you're always fully in control" and then you read the fine print and find out there's some way to rugpull or some other barrier that will screw the user. At this stage, having seen so many of these things, I'm comfortable disbelieving them outright WITHOUT reading further.

number6 3y ago
My feeling to: feels like a free sample and then they will lock you in
- sharipova 3y ago
  (co-founder of anytype) the whole purpose of anytype is user autonomy from software provider. The data standard is open. The code is open. You can self-host your network of backup nodes (tech skills required as this is self-hosting alpha released this week). The app is local first with p2p sync (you remove the back up node, you still have your data and still have sync in local networks). Most importantly you control the keys - encryption keys, access to your account - this is not touched by anytype - noone can block you out of your account, no central registry of users, all these. There are two principles for our business model: self-sustinability - support a community of contributors to improve the product and build this positive fly wheel and universal accessibility - anyone can use anytype for free if they use their resources. I hope all of this decisions deserve attention and reveal our intention (they are not accidental things)
  - jrm4 3y ago
    If you care to answer then -- what is the thing that you provide that I must pay for? As in, if I don't give you money, then I don't get ....
    - sharipova 3y ago
      You can use anytype for free if you use your own resources (storage, backup). There is an option to selfhost, or just use locally with local sync. You can also become a member of our association and it’s membership based, it will give you backup (if you don’t want to handle it yourself) and some things on top for those who want their spaces to be discoverable in our network. If you use privately for your team/org you may not be interested in paying. That’s ok with us :) joining the association and paying is voluntary. We have a principal of universal accessibility
      - number6 3y ago
        Then, I guess, the problem is, that it sounds too good to be true
PurpleRamen 3y ago
The project seems to come from the crypto-bubble. Bitcoin and DAO are mentioned here and there. So the smell either comes from them being a bit naive and having a poor socializing matching with HN.. or it's a new style of crypto-scam.

by jrm4 3y ago

number6 3y ago

My feeling to: feels like a free sample and then they will lock you in

sharipova 3y ago
(co-founder of anytype) the whole purpose of anytype is user autonomy from software provider. The data standard is open. The code is open. You can self-host your network of backup nodes (tech skills required as this is self-hosting alpha released this week). The app is local first with p2p sync (you remove the back up node, you still have your data and still have sync in local networks). Most importantly you control the keys - encryption keys, access to your account - this is not touched by anytype - noone can block you out of your account, no central registry of users, all these. There are two principles for our business model: self-sustinability - support a community of contributors to improve the product and build this positive fly wheel and universal accessibility - anyone can use anytype for free if they use their resources. I hope all of this decisions deserve attention and reveal our intention (they are not accidental things)
- jrm4 3y ago
  If you care to answer then -- what is the thing that you provide that I must pay for? As in, if I don't give you money, then I don't get ....
  - sharipova 3y ago
    You can use anytype for free if you use your own resources (storage, backup). There is an option to selfhost, or just use locally with local sync. You can also become a member of our association and it’s membership based, it will give you backup (if you don’t want to handle it yourself) and some things on top for those who want their spaces to be discoverable in our network. If you use privately for your team/org you may not be interested in paying. That’s ok with us :) joining the association and paying is voluntary. We have a principal of universal accessibility
    - number6 3y ago
      Then, I guess, the problem is, that it sounds too good to be true

PurpleRamen 3y ago

The project seems to come from the crypto-bubble. Bitcoin and DAO are mentioned here and there. So the smell either comes from them being a bit naive and having a poor socializing matching with HN.. or it's a new style of crypto-scam.