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Apple earned $50 billion from iOS gaming last year. I'm willing to bet most of that is coming from games using dark patterns and gambling tactics. For all their

Apple earned $50 billion from iOS gaming last year. I'm willing to bet most of that is coming from games using dark patterns and gambling tactics. For all their posturing about caring for the customer when it comes to privacy, they sure don't mind trapping them in gambling debt if it gets them billions in return!

johnnyanmac 3y ago
choosing to burn your life savings on lootboxes is orthogonal to making sure your account can't be hacked by outside parties. One is a choice made by the user and the other is an involuntary action taken against them.
- perryizgr8 3y ago
  Then why do people worry about UI dark patterns and pay-to-win games? You're free to burn your life savings after all. Either Apple is complicit or game companies are totally justified and deserve praise for figuring out how to squeeze billions of dollars from regular people. Both cannot be true.
  - johnnyanmac 3y ago
    >Then why do people worry about UI dark patterns and pay-to-win games? people worry about a lot of stuff. Some inconsequential to the grand scheme of things. >You're free to burn your life savings after all You are indeed free to. I don't recommend it, but I'm not your moral guardian nor therapist. > Either Apple is complicit or game companies are totally justified and deserve praise for figuring out how to squeeze billions of dollars from regular people. Both cannot be true. I don't see why not. Apple can allow for it and game companies can reap the rewards. I'm not even sure what the argument is at this point. I just wanted to point out that the ability to buy and spend thousands on a single video game isn't related to privacy concerns/settings. Unless your password was hacked and someone else did it, what connection is there?
    - perryizgr8 3y ago
      > what connection is there? Caring for the customer is not limited to privacy. One could argue that protecting them from blatant financial loot is also something to strive for. Since Apple delights in this massive scam, one is led to believe that they don't really care about the customer. The marketing push around "privacy" is simply marketing.
      - johnnyanmac 3y ago
        >Caring for the customer is not limited to privacy. Sure. But Apple (To my knowledge) never said "we care about you". That's very different from "we value your privacy". >The marketing push around "privacy" is simply marketing. I don't disagree, but it feels like low hanging capitalism bashing to attack a company over something they never stated. We are well past the 90's age where companies tried to make their customers feel like family. Companies these days very blantatly make it clear that they care about money first, so shaming Apple for caring about money just feels like drowning a fish in water. I may not really want the government to be involved in such matters, but it's a better attack vector than appealing to a coporation's humanity.
P_I_Staker 3y ago
Apple has never been a positive influence. This has always been postering. Have you notice they've also been pushing for offsets, due to their horrendous environmental policies, which also netted them billions.

johnnyanmac 3y ago

choosing to burn your life savings on lootboxes is orthogonal to making sure your account can't be hacked by outside parties. One is a choice made by the user and the other is an involuntary action taken against them.

perryizgr8 3y ago
Then why do people worry about UI dark patterns and pay-to-win games? You're free to burn your life savings after all. Either Apple is complicit or game companies are totally justified and deserve praise for figuring out how to squeeze billions of dollars from regular people. Both cannot be true.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  >Then why do people worry about UI dark patterns and pay-to-win games? people worry about a lot of stuff. Some inconsequential to the grand scheme of things. >You're free to burn your life savings after all You are indeed free to. I don't recommend it, but I'm not your moral guardian nor therapist. > Either Apple is complicit or game companies are totally justified and deserve praise for figuring out how to squeeze billions of dollars from regular people. Both cannot be true. I don't see why not. Apple can allow for it and game companies can reap the rewards. I'm not even sure what the argument is at this point. I just wanted to point out that the ability to buy and spend thousands on a single video game isn't related to privacy concerns/settings. Unless your password was hacked and someone else did it, what connection is there?
  - perryizgr8 3y ago
    > what connection is there? Caring for the customer is not limited to privacy. One could argue that protecting them from blatant financial loot is also something to strive for. Since Apple delights in this massive scam, one is led to believe that they don't really care about the customer. The marketing push around "privacy" is simply marketing.
    - johnnyanmac 3y ago
      >Caring for the customer is not limited to privacy. Sure. But Apple (To my knowledge) never said "we care about you". That's very different from "we value your privacy". >The marketing push around "privacy" is simply marketing. I don't disagree, but it feels like low hanging capitalism bashing to attack a company over something they never stated. We are well past the 90's age where companies tried to make their customers feel like family. Companies these days very blantatly make it clear that they care about money first, so shaming Apple for caring about money just feels like drowning a fish in water. I may not really want the government to be involved in such matters, but it's a better attack vector than appealing to a coporation's humanity.

P_I_Staker 3y ago

Apple has never been a positive influence. This has always been postering. Have you notice they've also been pushing for offsets, due to their horrendous environmental policies, which also netted them billions.