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GNUstep Desktop

57 points by felixding 3y ago

kristianp 3y ago
From https://gnustep.github.io/ https://gnustep.github.io/ "GNUstep provides a robust implementation of the AppKit and Foundation libraries as well as the development tools including the advanced interface designer Gorm (the InterfaceBuilder) and the IDE ProjectCenter (ProjectBuilder/Xcode)." Has anyone tried building linux apps with Gorm and ProjectCenter? And how long ago? I feel that gnustep has been around for a long time, at least a decade at this stage. I think it was available as a desktop choice for Ubuntu 12.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  More like around 25 years, so don't expect any big improvements. I was once on a FOSDEM session where the biggest discussion point was the upcoming L&F theme engine, so...
fithisux 3y ago
They should have moved to some other language long ago to speed up development.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  It wouldn't be a NeXTSTEP clone then.
  - lockhouse 3y ago
    I don’t see much harm in at least making Swift an option. macOS is the “successor state” of NeXTSTEP if you will. Adopting some of the newer APIs and Frameworks could be useful.
    - lproven 3y ago
      Having a Swift implementation that talked to GNUstep would be a great thing, IMHO, but the developers do not seem to see it as especially important, and as I understand it, as an Apple project, it is a moving target and the Apple developers are not likely to accept contributions from external developers.
anthk 3y ago
>Player.app uses VLC command for control and embeds VLC XWindow for output Somewhere there's an MPlayer.app for mplayer doing the same with Mplayer but with a socket. Adapting it for MPV would be something done in an afternoon.
chrsw 3y ago
This is what I have in mind when I think of desktop software. A full stack of technologies. A unified vision.
andsoitis 3y ago
Also check out Étoilé, based on GNUstep: http://etoileos.com/etoile/ http://etoileos.com/etoile/
- qawwads 3y ago
  Isn't this project ten years dead?
  - hulitu 3y ago
    > News: Stay up to date The Étoilé community is an active group of developers, designers, testers and users. New work is being done every day. Visit often to find out what we've been up to. > News CoreObject Preview Release Posted on 3 June 2014 by Eric Wasylishen It looks a bit dated.
alchemio 3y ago
This project is amazing. It also speaks to the strength of Ojective-C vs Swift which barely runs anywhere that’s not an apple os.
lproven 3y ago
My previous post about this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36056188 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36056188
- lproven 3y ago
  I later wrote about it on the Reg: https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/06/two_new_debian_desktops/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/06/two_new_debian_deskto...

57 points by felixding 3y ago

From https://gnustep.github.io/ https://gnustep.github.io/ "GNUstep provides a robust implementation of the AppKit and Foundation libraries as well as the development tools including the advanced interface designer Gorm (the InterfaceBuilder) and the IDE ProjectCenter (ProjectBuilder/Xcode)." Has anyone tried building linux apps with Gorm and ProjectCenter? And how long ago? I feel that gnustep has been around for a long time, at least a decade at this stage. I think it was available as a desktop choice for Ubuntu 12.

pjmlp 3y ago
More like around 25 years, so don't expect any big improvements. I was once on a FOSDEM session where the biggest discussion point was the upcoming L&F theme engine, so...

fithisux 3y ago

They should have moved to some other language long ago to speed up development.

pjmlp 3y ago
It wouldn't be a NeXTSTEP clone then.
- lockhouse 3y ago
  I don’t see much harm in at least making Swift an option. macOS is the “successor state” of NeXTSTEP if you will. Adopting some of the newer APIs and Frameworks could be useful.
  - lproven 3y ago
    Having a Swift implementation that talked to GNUstep would be a great thing, IMHO, but the developers do not seem to see it as especially important, and as I understand it, as an Apple project, it is a moving target and the Apple developers are not likely to accept contributions from external developers.

anthk 3y ago

>Player.app uses VLC command for control and embeds VLC XWindow for output Somewhere there's an MPlayer.app for mplayer doing the same with Mplayer but with a socket. Adapting it for MPV would be something done in an afternoon.

chrsw 3y ago

This is what I have in mind when I think of desktop software. A full stack of technologies. A unified vision.

andsoitis 3y ago

Also check out Étoilé, based on GNUstep: http://etoileos.com/etoile/ http://etoileos.com/etoile/

qawwads 3y ago
Isn't this project ten years dead?
- hulitu 3y ago
  > News: Stay up to date The Étoilé community is an active group of developers, designers, testers and users. New work is being done every day. Visit often to find out what we've been up to. > News CoreObject Preview Release Posted on 3 June 2014 by Eric Wasylishen It looks a bit dated.

alchemio 3y ago

This project is amazing. It also speaks to the strength of Ojective-C vs Swift which barely runs anywhere that’s not an apple os.

lproven 3y ago

My previous post about this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36056188 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36056188

lproven 3y ago
I later wrote about it on the Reg: https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/06/two_new_debian_desktops/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/06/two_new_debian_deskto...