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I think it's worse than that. Miyoho gives you the impression you can play their games without spending money, but in practice the gap between one copy of a cha

I think it's worse than that. Miyoho gives you the impression you can play their games without spending money, but in practice the gap between one copy of a character and four copies of a character can be enormous. By the time you realize this, you've been on the game for a while and are more likely to spend.

libraryatnight 3y ago
A lot of gacha games use this. Right when players think they've got something top tier, no no, the real top tier version is that .0001% drop x 4 to merge into some super version. It's gross when you hear a young kid talk about how much some youtuber or twitch streamer "whaled" on stream like it's a flex to be admired.
hnick 3y ago
While that is true, in Genshin Impact at least, the main game is so easy it's not really an issue unless you choose to be a min-maxer, and there's no PvP competitive aspect. You can beat the abyss full f2p, but it will take a bit longer to get there (as someone who has been a denegerate min-maxer in other games, I have no interest in pushing for it myself). The worst whales I've seen are those who get emotionally attached to a character.
- hakfoo 3y ago
  The other thing is that there's no meaningful leaderboard or PVP situations. Some gamers will whale to acquire or preserve a position as #1-on-the-charts, so hyperoptimizing for single player doesn't scratch that itch, unless you're doing some Rube Goldberg setup like self-promoting video streams demonstrating your overpowered build. I've tossed a little money (probably about USD40 over three years) on Genshin, but I'd rather express my attachment to characters by buying an Arataki Itto oppai mousepad off of Aliexpress. TBH, I found my interest waning when I realized I had a sufficiently capable team of characters I liked, so there wasn't really any reason to go chasing characters I didn't want.
  - fomine3 3y ago
    That's why I pay for Genshin impact despite I generally don't like such monetize system. There's no anxiety for the game, so I can just pay for my satisfaction.
azurezyq 3y ago
It depends on how you play the game. One copy or 4 copies, even 5 star characters or 4 star characters don't really matter in killing all monsters in the open world. As long as you do not play Abyss, it doesn't matter. (e.g., me, 3 years into the game and abyss only cleared at 10-2) I spent a few hundred dollars on chars though, but they were mostly about aesthetics (you just like them).

libraryatnight 3y ago

A lot of gacha games use this. Right when players think they've got something top tier, no no, the real top tier version is that .0001% drop x 4 to merge into some super version. It's gross when you hear a young kid talk about how much some youtuber or twitch streamer "whaled" on stream like it's a flex to be admired.

hnick 3y ago

While that is true, in Genshin Impact at least, the main game is so easy it's not really an issue unless you choose to be a min-maxer, and there's no PvP competitive aspect. You can beat the abyss full f2p, but it will take a bit longer to get there (as someone who has been a denegerate min-maxer in other games, I have no interest in pushing for it myself). The worst whales I've seen are those who get emotionally attached to a character.

hakfoo 3y ago
The other thing is that there's no meaningful leaderboard or PVP situations. Some gamers will whale to acquire or preserve a position as #1-on-the-charts, so hyperoptimizing for single player doesn't scratch that itch, unless you're doing some Rube Goldberg setup like self-promoting video streams demonstrating your overpowered build. I've tossed a little money (probably about USD40 over three years) on Genshin, but I'd rather express my attachment to characters by buying an Arataki Itto oppai mousepad off of Aliexpress. TBH, I found my interest waning when I realized I had a sufficiently capable team of characters I liked, so there wasn't really any reason to go chasing characters I didn't want.
- fomine3 3y ago
  That's why I pay for Genshin impact despite I generally don't like such monetize system. There's no anxiety for the game, so I can just pay for my satisfaction.

azurezyq 3y ago

It depends on how you play the game. One copy or 4 copies, even 5 star characters or 4 star characters don't really matter in killing all monsters in the open world. As long as you do not play Abyss, it doesn't matter. (e.g., me, 3 years into the game and abyss only cleared at 10-2) I spent a few hundred dollars on chars though, but they were mostly about aesthetics (you just like them).