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> She could not meet her clients outside due to movement restrictions in her city Sangli, nor bring them home as she didn’t want her daughter to know she was a

> She could not meet her clients outside due to movement restrictions in her city Sangli, nor bring them home as she didn’t want her daughter to know she was a sex worker. It must be wild to have a sex worker as a parent. Maybe I’m getting older but there’s no way that’s a good environment to be raising a kid in. Like that adam22 guy, no way his daughter will turn out normal. Especially when they were using her for content like his wife breastfeeding her.

chimeracoder 3y ago
> It must be wild to have a sex worker as a parent. Maybe I’m getting older but there’s no way that’s a good environment to be raising a kid in. Plenty of people are raised by parents who did sex work. There's no inherent reason it has any effect on parenting.
s5300 3y ago
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throwawayadvsec 3y ago
It's just a job. If you're independent, mentally sane, and not blowing your money on drugs, you could actually give a better to life to your kids that 99% of people. I knew someone who invested enough of the money she made that way so that her daughter would never have to work a single day of her life, and she was like 40yo.
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- maxilevi 3y ago
  And how many people are like that? You are basically discard most of the population
  - DennisP 3y ago
    Independent, sane, and drug-free doesn't seem like that high of a bar to me.
    - capableweb 3y ago
      A lot of people where work is tied to your healthcare are not independent. A lot others work so much it leave them no choice to not be sane after a while. And sometimes people can't afford the expensive tools needed to deal with lots of personal issues (tools like therapy) so they turn to the cheaper options, like drugs. I don't think it's so shocking that not a lot of people would actually be above that bar.
      - DennisP 3y ago
        I had a feeling somebody would quibble with "independent." In context, I don't think it's a high bar. If we're talking about sex workers, we're not talking about people with regular jobs so work is tied to their healthcare. "Independent" has to mean no more than an independent-minded personality; exactly the sort of person who can cope with running their own business doing something that's less socially acceptable. Therapy is not the universal requirement for mental health that many people seem to think it is. Most people just muddle through and manage to stay reasonably sane without developing substance abuse disorders. In many cases that might not be optimal, but it's not insane or drug-addled either.
  - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
    Most sex workers I've come across are not drug addled nor mentally unwell. Obviously that's a tiny proportion and not enough to draw solid statistical conclusions from, but at least it's more data than you have.
- skilled 3y ago
  It’s a job, sure… but it certainly isn’t straightforward or without its problems. And above all, sex isn’t exactly “I tried these gloves and I didn’t like them so I will get the other ones” type of deal. Love is great because it’s innocent and exploratory, I find it hard to believe these sex workers deal only with clients who are in it for romantic aspects, which means a lot of the time these women will be taking on whatever nasty bullshit their client is dealing with in their own life… And that isn’t something you can suppress for the rest of your life. It will eventually seep out and begin to distort your view of reality. And no amount of money can fix that. Not trying to be too cynical but it’s a major point to consider if you want to weigh the topic as a whole.
  - rurp 3y ago
    > isn’t something you can suppress for the rest of your life. It will eventually seep out and begin to distort your view of reality. And no amount of money can fix that. Anyone working a job that deals with a lot of drunk people, or criminals, or mentally unwell will experience a fair amount of nasty behavior. It sucks, but people do the work because it's their best option and others rarely judge them for it. Except sex workers, they get judged by practically everyone.
    - AlecSchueler 3y ago
      Some jobs like bar work or physiciatric work carry risks of physical altercation etc. In prostitution the physical encounter is the whole job, there's no avoiding it. Your body is the product. Sex itself is also highly exceptional emotionally. Your body reacts to sexual behavior neurochemical in a way that's incomparable to really any other activity, and it's unique in how it can affect your relationships and self perception. Please note that I make No judgement against sex workers when I say this.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  I think that how harmful it is depends on the society in which it takes place. I mean, everyone who works is a prostitute in the more abstract sense. We are all renting the use of our bodies for money. The only difference between me and a sex worker is that I'm renting my body to someone to be used toward a different purpose.
  - AlecSchueler 3y ago
    You don't see a difference in your body being the actual product?
    - mptest 3y ago
      Your body is always the product, that's the point. You're selling your body (the product) to a company or directly to the consumer.
- majikaja 3y ago
  Every woman should just be multi-millionaire prostitutes to be better mothers than housewives and corporate wageslaves!
postmortembees 3y ago
Why, why would you say that? Parent leaves for work, parent comes home from work with income. Is it because sex work is dangerous? So is fishing, and pizza delivery, and construction. Is it because sex work wears down your body? Plenty of general contractors, nurses, and landscapers have jobs that are more physically demanding. I genuinely do not see how, if someone has a reasonable separation of work/home, it would present any more negativity on a kid's upbringing than any other physical labor.
- _a_a_a_ 3y ago
  It seems like a judgemental attitude induced by religion. Those most against prostitution seem to be in religious groups.
  - chimeracoder 3y ago
    > It seems like a judgemental attitude induced by religion. Those most against prostitution seem to be in religious groups. That's a common misconception, but it's simply not true. If you talk to actual sex workers, they'll consistently tell you that they face judgemental attitudes and discrimination across the board, not just from religious people.
    - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
      Fair enough, that was just my impression. But it is my impression also that most *organised groups against prostitution often seem to have religion behind them. I may well be wrong though.
  - dijit 3y ago
    I would go further and say that some people who are against sex work are against the propensity for other crime to occur (including trafficking, drug use etc) or for violence to be perpetrated against sex workers. Ironically, if we didn't have puritan attitudes, the majority of those issues would be mitigated quite drastically.
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willcipriano 3y ago
I'm fairly certain what you describe in the last sentence there is a crime. A very serious crime.
- qingcharles 3y ago
  What dystopian country are you in that makes a video of breastfeeding an actual crime?
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  - willcipriano 3y ago
    Is that what it was? Or was it "content".
- rightbyte 3y ago
  I mean, monetizing your child with breast feeding videos might be considered tasteless even though it is legal and certainly not CSAM.
_a_a_a_ 3y ago
Perhaps you should look into it, try and find out a bit more from other people's experience whose parents were sex workers, before you decide. Otherwise you come across as bigoted. The saddest problem from sex work that I'm aware of is people get forced into it from lack of money. It may not be the sex work so much as the poverty that does the damage to the children. In terms of growing up with the constant fear of lack of money, that deeply affects your parents, and that in turn damages you. Yes I am speaking from experience. edit: "A woman in Zambia stated that five blowjobs would allow her to purchase a bag of cornmeal for her children." https://www.socialconnectedness.org/the-stigmatization-behind-sex-work/ https://www.socialconnectedness.org/the-stigmatization-behin... Fucking hell.
renewiltord 3y ago
I think working from home is probably a much worse environment to raise your kids than going to work and coming back and they don't know that you sold your body for the day. The latter case is indistinguishable between jobs.
rngname22 3y ago
Do you find it strange to think we wouldn't consider it weird to have a parent who was a soldier or a boxer or a cop who had demolished someone's face on camera or killed another human during a non-defensive war or put someone in a cage for selling a plant, but the idea that a parent would give another human one of life's greatest pleasures for money is disturbing?
- bittercynic 3y ago
  I'm not the one you asked, but I think those are all various degrees of disturbing. Don't you?
tohnjitor 3y ago
It's not just you. That's an abominable environment to raise a child in.
- surgical_fire 3y ago
  It would be more abominable to raise them on the streets. If it puts food on the table and a roof over their heads, who am I to judge? I won't disregards the possible health, psychological and societal risks of doing sex work. But it is (or should be where it is forbidden) honest work like any other.

chimeracoder 3y ago

> It must be wild to have a sex worker as a parent. Maybe I’m getting older but there’s no way that’s a good environment to be raising a kid in. Plenty of people are raised by parents who did sex work. There's no inherent reason it has any effect on parenting.

s5300 3y ago

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throwawayadvsec 3y ago

It's just a job. If you're independent, mentally sane, and not blowing your money on drugs, you could actually give a better to life to your kids that 99% of people. I knew someone who invested enough of the money she made that way so that her daughter would never have to work a single day of her life, and she was like 40yo.

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maxilevi 3y ago
And how many people are like that? You are basically discard most of the population
- DennisP 3y ago
  Independent, sane, and drug-free doesn't seem like that high of a bar to me.
  - capableweb 3y ago
    A lot of people where work is tied to your healthcare are not independent. A lot others work so much it leave them no choice to not be sane after a while. And sometimes people can't afford the expensive tools needed to deal with lots of personal issues (tools like therapy) so they turn to the cheaper options, like drugs. I don't think it's so shocking that not a lot of people would actually be above that bar.
    - DennisP 3y ago
      I had a feeling somebody would quibble with "independent." In context, I don't think it's a high bar. If we're talking about sex workers, we're not talking about people with regular jobs so work is tied to their healthcare. "Independent" has to mean no more than an independent-minded personality; exactly the sort of person who can cope with running their own business doing something that's less socially acceptable. Therapy is not the universal requirement for mental health that many people seem to think it is. Most people just muddle through and manage to stay reasonably sane without developing substance abuse disorders. In many cases that might not be optimal, but it's not insane or drug-addled either.
- _a_a_a_ 3y ago
  Most sex workers I've come across are not drug addled nor mentally unwell. Obviously that's a tiny proportion and not enough to draw solid statistical conclusions from, but at least it's more data than you have.
skilled 3y ago
It’s a job, sure… but it certainly isn’t straightforward or without its problems. And above all, sex isn’t exactly “I tried these gloves and I didn’t like them so I will get the other ones” type of deal. Love is great because it’s innocent and exploratory, I find it hard to believe these sex workers deal only with clients who are in it for romantic aspects, which means a lot of the time these women will be taking on whatever nasty bullshit their client is dealing with in their own life… And that isn’t something you can suppress for the rest of your life. It will eventually seep out and begin to distort your view of reality. And no amount of money can fix that. Not trying to be too cynical but it’s a major point to consider if you want to weigh the topic as a whole.
- rurp 3y ago
  > isn’t something you can suppress for the rest of your life. It will eventually seep out and begin to distort your view of reality. And no amount of money can fix that. Anyone working a job that deals with a lot of drunk people, or criminals, or mentally unwell will experience a fair amount of nasty behavior. It sucks, but people do the work because it's their best option and others rarely judge them for it. Except sex workers, they get judged by practically everyone.
  - AlecSchueler 3y ago
    Some jobs like bar work or physiciatric work carry risks of physical altercation etc. In prostitution the physical encounter is the whole job, there's no avoiding it. Your body is the product. Sex itself is also highly exceptional emotionally. Your body reacts to sexual behavior neurochemical in a way that's incomparable to really any other activity, and it's unique in how it can affect your relationships and self perception. Please note that I make No judgement against sex workers when I say this.
JohnFen 3y ago
I think that how harmful it is depends on the society in which it takes place. I mean, everyone who works is a prostitute in the more abstract sense. We are all renting the use of our bodies for money. The only difference between me and a sex worker is that I'm renting my body to someone to be used toward a different purpose.
- AlecSchueler 3y ago
  You don't see a difference in your body being the actual product?
  - mptest 3y ago
    Your body is always the product, that's the point. You're selling your body (the product) to a company or directly to the consumer.
majikaja 3y ago
Every woman should just be multi-millionaire prostitutes to be better mothers than housewives and corporate wageslaves!

postmortembees 3y ago

Why, why would you say that? Parent leaves for work, parent comes home from work with income. Is it because sex work is dangerous? So is fishing, and pizza delivery, and construction. Is it because sex work wears down your body? Plenty of general contractors, nurses, and landscapers have jobs that are more physically demanding. I genuinely do not see how, if someone has a reasonable separation of work/home, it would present any more negativity on a kid's upbringing than any other physical labor.

_a_a_a_ 3y ago
It seems like a judgemental attitude induced by religion. Those most against prostitution seem to be in religious groups.
- chimeracoder 3y ago
  > It seems like a judgemental attitude induced by religion. Those most against prostitution seem to be in religious groups. That's a common misconception, but it's simply not true. If you talk to actual sex workers, they'll consistently tell you that they face judgemental attitudes and discrimination across the board, not just from religious people.
  - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
    Fair enough, that was just my impression. But it is my impression also that most *organised groups against prostitution often seem to have religion behind them. I may well be wrong though.
- dijit 3y ago
  I would go further and say that some people who are against sex work are against the propensity for other crime to occur (including trafficking, drug use etc) or for violence to be perpetrated against sex workers. Ironically, if we didn't have puritan attitudes, the majority of those issues would be mitigated quite drastically.
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willcipriano 3y ago

I'm fairly certain what you describe in the last sentence there is a crime. A very serious crime.

qingcharles 3y ago
What dystopian country are you in that makes a video of breastfeeding an actual crime?
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- willcipriano 3y ago
  Is that what it was? Or was it "content".
rightbyte 3y ago
I mean, monetizing your child with breast feeding videos might be considered tasteless even though it is legal and certainly not CSAM.

_a_a_a_ 3y ago

Perhaps you should look into it, try and find out a bit more from other people's experience whose parents were sex workers, before you decide. Otherwise you come across as bigoted. The saddest problem from sex work that I'm aware of is people get forced into it from lack of money. It may not be the sex work so much as the poverty that does the damage to the children. In terms of growing up with the constant fear of lack of money, that deeply affects your parents, and that in turn damages you. Yes I am speaking from experience. edit: "A woman in Zambia stated that five blowjobs would allow her to purchase a bag of cornmeal for her children." https://www.socialconnectedness.org/the-stigmatization-behind-sex-work/ https://www.socialconnectedness.org/the-stigmatization-behin... Fucking hell.

renewiltord 3y ago

I think working from home is probably a much worse environment to raise your kids than going to work and coming back and they don't know that you sold your body for the day. The latter case is indistinguishable between jobs.

rngname22 3y ago

Do you find it strange to think we wouldn't consider it weird to have a parent who was a soldier or a boxer or a cop who had demolished someone's face on camera or killed another human during a non-defensive war or put someone in a cage for selling a plant, but the idea that a parent would give another human one of life's greatest pleasures for money is disturbing?

bittercynic 3y ago
I'm not the one you asked, but I think those are all various degrees of disturbing. Don't you?

tohnjitor 3y ago

It's not just you. That's an abominable environment to raise a child in.

surgical_fire 3y ago
It would be more abominable to raise them on the streets. If it puts food on the table and a roof over their heads, who am I to judge? I won't disregards the possible health, psychological and societal risks of doing sex work. But it is (or should be where it is forbidden) honest work like any other.