Yeah. I completely agree with the part about separating db stuff and logic (it's a huge pet peeve of mine and almost nobody at work does anything like that), bu

Yeah. I completely agree with the part about separating db stuff and logic (it's a huge pet peeve of mine and almost nobody at work does anything like that), but I think mocks do have a place. I also think it's best to make sure the majority of our code doesn't require mocks to test. But very few people do that either even if it's fairly simple. I am fairly fresh with my two years of professional experience and I've spent a lot of energy worrying about whether there's something wrong with me that makes me want to refactor most of the code I read. I'm starting to lean towards the conclusion that it's not my fault, it's just that most devs write shitty code. And I don't think that's javas fault.