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The PRC bet on Russia's invasion of Ukraine and got burned. Their constant whining about Taiwan and childish insistence that Tienanmen Square never happened mak

by msla 3y ago

The PRC bet on Russia's invasion of Ukraine and got burned. Their constant whining about Taiwan and childish insistence that Tienanmen Square never happened makes them the laughingstock of the world. Their continued support for the demented lapdog regime in North Korea is similarly laughable. Their deification of gangsters like Mao and Deng puts them on a par with other unserious regimes as North Korea and the former USSR. China's massive digital divide is shameful, as is its neglect and brutalization of ethnic minorities. China's sexism is notorious the world over, as is its noxious pollution and the utter disregard its companies have for environmental laws. There's little for the West to copy, and even less the West should copy.

inconceivable 3y ago
i can tell you watch a lot of youtube videos on why china is bad.
- macintux 3y ago
  I’m not necessarily disagreeing but “you’re wrong” is much less compelling than “here are some concrete ways in which your list is misleading”.
  - kmeisthax 3y ago
    There's posts elsewhere in the comment thread with concrete reasons. I'll horribly paraphrase them: the demographic collapse is less of a problem than westerners think because China has a high home ownership[0] rate and home-owning adults are way more likely to have children. Old people will just die alone and unloved in China like they do in Japan. China captures enough of the electronics value chain that existing 'derisking policies' practically amount to 'move final assembly to Mexico to evade tariffs.' They're nowhere close to being food dependent. I'm not entirely convinced by this, of course. But it's important to note that headwinds are not brick walls. And even the inevitable next collapse of the Russian Empire will probably not happen for years, if ever. There are levels of survival that the elites who run sovereign states are willing to accept. [0] On the timescales of normal family planning, the difference between home ownership and a ninety-nine year lease with no rent payment is immaterial.

by msla 3y ago

inconceivable 3y ago

i can tell you watch a lot of youtube videos on why china is bad.

macintux 3y ago
I’m not necessarily disagreeing but “you’re wrong” is much less compelling than “here are some concrete ways in which your list is misleading”.
- kmeisthax 3y ago
  There's posts elsewhere in the comment thread with concrete reasons. I'll horribly paraphrase them: the demographic collapse is less of a problem than westerners think because China has a high home ownership[0] rate and home-owning adults are way more likely to have children. Old people will just die alone and unloved in China like they do in Japan. China captures enough of the electronics value chain that existing 'derisking policies' practically amount to 'move final assembly to Mexico to evade tariffs.' They're nowhere close to being food dependent. I'm not entirely convinced by this, of course. But it's important to note that headwinds are not brick walls. And even the inevitable next collapse of the Russian Empire will probably not happen for years, if ever. There are levels of survival that the elites who run sovereign states are willing to accept. [0] On the timescales of normal family planning, the difference between home ownership and a ninety-nine year lease with no rent payment is immaterial.