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Unbelievable, no wonder people don't trust the science!
by stuckinhell 3y ago
Unbelievable, no wonder people don't trust the science!
- MengerSponge 3y agoThankfully Daddy Business always tells us when he lied to us. Science is self-correcting. Not always right. This is part of what self-correction looks like. It beats all known alternatives.
- stuckinhell 3y agoScience didn't self-correct here. The checks and balance in the scientific systems failed so badly, a student journalist uncovered the fraud. The problem is that Science has become in your words "Daddy" Business.
- MengerSponge 3y agoOh, I see. Was the fraud revealed during discovery? Or was it a deathbed confession? No. But it was revealed, and championed by an undergraduate journalist. It's important to track the provenance of ideas, and Theo Baker wasn't the first person to identify the falsified data. He has done great work keeping Stanford from burying the story, but he isn't Elizabeth Bik, combing through old Science articles looking for duplication. And now the papers have been retracted, and the responsible party faces laughably trivial consequences, all things considered. A self-correcting system isn't going to get it right all the time. The papers were under the aegis of a powerful man, so it's not surprising that it took some time for them to be corrected.
- scrum-treats 3y agoThere's a reason for maintaining separation of corporate capitalism and science/academia. People are persuaded by the almighty dollar and the prestige. Before you know it academic institutions and "prestigious" scientists are pushing propaganda, for kickbacks. While it may be difficult at times to maintain ethics and integrity, it's always worth the commitment. Always.