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Because of Covid science has proven masking is a waste of effort and resources. If you disagree you should really research the latest studies. Here is a great

Because of Covid science has proven masking is a waste of effort and resources. If you disagree you should really research the latest studies. Here is a great starting point from 2021. https://brownstone.org/articles/studies-and-articles-on-mask-ineffectiveness-and-harms/ https://brownstone.org/articles/studies-and-articles-on-mask... They are a failure. Globally. https://www.amazon.com/Unmasked-Global-Failure-COVID-Mandates/dp/1637583761 https://www.amazon.com/Unmasked-Global-Failure-COVID-Mandate... One of the largest peer-reviewed European studies says... "These findings indicate that countries with high levels of mask compliance did not perform better than those with low mask usage." https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe#!/ https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-ma... Why? Because they are ineffective and were only introduced as a way to busy or "pacify" the masses.

timcederman 3y ago
Are you suggesting N95 masks provide no protection against airborne viruses?
- jtc331 3y ago
  I believe that is what pre-COVID masking in hospital settings has shown, yes. Possibly COVID is different from the flu. But the difficulty for proving masking helps is: 1. If it only takes ~20 virions to get infected, then masking has to have a basically perfect filtering rate and be worn perfectly 100% of the time, neither of which is obvious. 2. With an endemic virus even if masks slow down spread they aren't going to reduce your likelihood of being infected overall.
  - timcederman 3y ago
    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm > Consistent use of a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings was associated with lower odds of a positive SARS-CoV-2 test result (adjusted odds ratio = 0.44). Use of respirators with higher filtration capacity was associated with the most protection, compared with no mask use. I'll take a reduced risk, even if it's not perfect. Would you prefer to get covid one time, or five times? It's like arguing "why bother wearing a seatbelt, when it doesn't prevent injuries in accidents?" Also, are you suggesting masking does not help with preventing influenza infection?
    - zo1 3y ago
      How did they account for people "doing something different" when wearing a mask? I.e. did they do a double-blind experiment where people wore masks that had intentional holes in them? So we can know that wearing a mask is the thing to do vs whatever it is that wearing a mask caused that person to do. I guess I'm asking or saying that this might have been some sort of "correlation is not causation" kind of thing?
      - timcederman 3y ago
        I get that for whatever reason folks like yourself don't want to believe it, but trust me, masks work. Just ask anyone who works in asbestos abatement or BSL-2+ facilities.

timcederman 3y ago

Are you suggesting N95 masks provide no protection against airborne viruses?

jtc331 3y ago
I believe that is what pre-COVID masking in hospital settings has shown, yes. Possibly COVID is different from the flu. But the difficulty for proving masking helps is: 1. If it only takes ~20 virions to get infected, then masking has to have a basically perfect filtering rate and be worn perfectly 100% of the time, neither of which is obvious. 2. With an endemic virus even if masks slow down spread they aren't going to reduce your likelihood of being infected overall.
- timcederman 3y ago
  https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm > Consistent use of a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings was associated with lower odds of a positive SARS-CoV-2 test result (adjusted odds ratio = 0.44). Use of respirators with higher filtration capacity was associated with the most protection, compared with no mask use. I'll take a reduced risk, even if it's not perfect. Would you prefer to get covid one time, or five times? It's like arguing "why bother wearing a seatbelt, when it doesn't prevent injuries in accidents?" Also, are you suggesting masking does not help with preventing influenza infection?
  - zo1 3y ago
    How did they account for people "doing something different" when wearing a mask? I.e. did they do a double-blind experiment where people wore masks that had intentional holes in them? So we can know that wearing a mask is the thing to do vs whatever it is that wearing a mask caused that person to do. I guess I'm asking or saying that this might have been some sort of "correlation is not causation" kind of thing?
    - timcederman 3y ago
      I get that for whatever reason folks like yourself don't want to believe it, but trust me, masks work. Just ask anyone who works in asbestos abatement or BSL-2+ facilities.