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That said, this article and paper don't really seem to provide any kind of solution, they just identify a problem. As a non-native English speaking scientist,
by Al-Khwarizmi 3y ago
That said, this article and paper don't really seem to provide any kind of solution, they just identify a problem.
As a non-native English speaking scientist, I don't think this is a problem that can or should be "solved" (as by, I don't know, switching to Esperanto or something like that); but awareness is important. For example, reviewers not being jerks about papers by non-native speakers would already be helpful. In this sense, I think articles like this are useful because many native speakers greatly underestimate the extra effort required.
Another example: in my particular research community, there was discussion about forbidding ChatGPT as a paper writing assistant. But every person I saw taking that position was a native English speaker. No non-native would ever defend that, because for us it's obvious that it's probably the single best technological advance of all time to bridge the paper writing gap. Native speakers were all fussed about writing being "fake", soulless, etc. whereas the main worry of many non-native is being able to express their ideas in a fluent enough form to not cause the paper to be rejected.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago> single best technological advance of all time to bridge the paper writing gap This is not a point that's come up in my native-English-speaking bubble. Thanks for pointing this out!
- bagacrap 3y agoInteresting. How do you use chatgpt for this? Do you give it some text and ask it to correct grammar?
- im_dario 3y agoJust asking ChatGPT to proofread a text is enough. I’ve used for different languages and native speakers didn’t tell it was written by a non-native neither an IA.
- bagacrap 3y agoI have used it for different languages, and native speakers could not tell that it was written by a non-native or an AI. --- Pretty sure I would recognize this sentence as fishy because no one would use non-native like that. But this probably would indeed be helpful and seemingly valid to use this to improve papers. Although it did alright on this one sentence, I'd still be worried that it would change the meaning of something somewhere that a less fluent speaker wouldn't notice.
- fomine3 3y agoIndeed, translation is often overlooked use case for LLMs in English forums. Let's not forget that the Transformer model originated from Google Translate. It's also quite useful for improving broken English to a more acceptable standard. My comment above is translated from my broken English to simple native-ish English by GPT-4.