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I like how "world-wide" is code for "northern hemisphere".

by bruce511 3y ago

AbrahamParangi 3y ago
90% of humans live in the northern hemisphere.
- tibbydudeza 3y ago
  Southie here - it is bloody cold here right now - 12C.
  - fnordpiglet 3y ago
    We should be super concerned if there were a heat wave on the south end this time of year :-)
    - fluoridation 3y ago
      Well, actually just a couple weeks ago I was riding to work in my summer kit in ~15° C weather. It was only after last week's rain that temperatures finally dropped to something reasonably seasonal.
  - deleted 3y ago
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mistrial9 3y ago
check out "McArthur's Universal Corrective Map of the World"
- photonbeam 3y ago
  Is there a modern version of this?
  - Zigurd 3y ago
    Narukawa's AuthaGraph map is actually a family of projections so you don't have to settle on one bias/distortion. I like Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion projection, with the North Pole roughly in the middle. That is a very practical way to present the planet laid flat because of shortest international flight routes frequently being over the Arctic.
hikingsimulator 3y ago
There is no 400km rampart at the Equator. It's not because it's technically winter there that it is not hotter than normal.
pc86 3y ago
I mean it's close enough, yeah. 70% of land is there[0] and close to 90% of the people[1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere#/media/File:Northern_Hemisphere_LamAz.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere#/media/Fil... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere#Demographics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere#Demographi...
- bruce511 3y ago
  well, good to know. 30% of the land, 10% of the people... Of course 70%ish of the planet is water, so by the same logic, "Earth is completely covered by water worldwide" ?
  - kimjune01 3y ago
    That depends on if you have an ethno-centric or a hydro-centric view of the world.
    - aziaziazi 3y ago
      Anthro / Geo. Hydro view would be “97% of water is saline” and Ethno “4 religions account for over 77% of the world's population” Please correct me if I’m wrong.
      - dryrun 3y ago
        Ethnic is not relative to religion per se, but language and traditions.
        aziaziazi 3y ago
        For what I find on search engines, Ethno is relative to race, people, culture. that includes language, traditions and religions.
  - otikik 3y ago
    Well we call it "The Blue Marble", so we kind of already do that a little bit.
Scarblac 3y ago
Antarctic sea ice is also extremely low for the time of year (see https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ ), so it's not only the north.
- reportgunner 3y ago
  That website shows that there's more ice than in 2012, 2019, 2020 and 2021. Only other data available on that chart is 2022 and 1981-2010 median. edit: I was reading the Arctic chart and I was corrected below
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - Scarblac 3y ago
    That's the Arctic, the chart for the Antarctic is further down and has 1970-2023.
  - joshuahedlund 3y ago
    https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/ https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-... Switch to Antarctic and make sure to click "Show All Years". Until 2023 even low years were at least slowly marginal departures overlapping with previous years. 2023 is so far off the trend it almost looks like a data error. I've never seen anything like it.
    - mikeyouse 3y ago
      For those who don't want to play with the chart - we're apparently below the previous record by 1.5 million square kilometers of ocean with at least 15% ice compared to the record for the prior 45 years... so that's a bit concerning. https://i.imgur.com/2VgP96t.png https://i.imgur.com/2VgP96t.png
      - BobbyJo 3y ago
smallerfish 3y ago
North is up, and up is better than down. ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Gtm2Z_70 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Gtm2Z_70 PS did I really need to add /s? Anyway the video is an interesting watch about the implicit biases that come from map orientation.
kurthr 3y ago
Yeah, there wasn't really an ozone hole... in the northern hemisphere. Why did everybody talk about it so much and spend so much effort fixing it?
- fnordpiglet 3y ago
  Because it would grow if we didn’t?
  - kurthr 3y ago
    That, and because ultimately the whole world is affected and the "news" is just there to motivate people and governments to do something about it. Pointing out that it's winter in the southern hemisphere right now isn't really relevant.

I like how "world-wide" is code for "northern hemisphere".

AbrahamParangi 3y ago

90% of humans live in the northern hemisphere.

tibbydudeza 3y ago
Southie here - it is bloody cold here right now - 12C.
- fnordpiglet 3y ago
  We should be super concerned if there were a heat wave on the south end this time of year :-)
  - fluoridation 3y ago
    Well, actually just a couple weeks ago I was riding to work in my summer kit in ~15° C weather. It was only after last week's rain that temperatures finally dropped to something reasonably seasonal.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]

mistrial9 3y ago

check out "McArthur's Universal Corrective Map of the World"

photonbeam 3y ago
Is there a modern version of this?
- Zigurd 3y ago
  Narukawa's AuthaGraph map is actually a family of projections so you don't have to settle on one bias/distortion. I like Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion projection, with the North Pole roughly in the middle. That is a very practical way to present the planet laid flat because of shortest international flight routes frequently being over the Arctic.

hikingsimulator 3y ago

There is no 400km rampart at the Equator. It's not because it's technically winter there that it is not hotter than normal.

pc86 3y ago

I mean it's close enough, yeah. 70% of land is there[0] and close to 90% of the people[1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere#/media/File:Northern_Hemisphere_LamAz.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere#/media/Fil... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere#Demographics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere#Demographi...

bruce511 3y ago
well, good to know. 30% of the land, 10% of the people... Of course 70%ish of the planet is water, so by the same logic, "Earth is completely covered by water worldwide" ?
- kimjune01 3y ago
  That depends on if you have an ethno-centric or a hydro-centric view of the world.
  - aziaziazi 3y ago
    Anthro / Geo. Hydro view would be “97% of water is saline” and Ethno “4 religions account for over 77% of the world's population” Please correct me if I’m wrong.
    - dryrun 3y ago
      Ethnic is not relative to religion per se, but language and traditions.
      - aziaziazi 3y ago
        For what I find on search engines, Ethno is relative to race, people, culture. that includes language, traditions and religions.
- otikik 3y ago
  Well we call it "The Blue Marble", so we kind of already do that a little bit.

Scarblac 3y ago

Antarctic sea ice is also extremely low for the time of year (see https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ ), so it's not only the north.

reportgunner 3y ago
That website shows that there's more ice than in 2012, 2019, 2020 and 2021. Only other data available on that chart is 2022 and 1981-2010 median. edit: I was reading the Arctic chart and I was corrected below
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- Scarblac 3y ago
  That's the Arctic, the chart for the Antarctic is further down and has 1970-2023.
- joshuahedlund 3y ago
  https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/ https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-... Switch to Antarctic and make sure to click "Show All Years". Until 2023 even low years were at least slowly marginal departures overlapping with previous years. 2023 is so far off the trend it almost looks like a data error. I've never seen anything like it.
  - mikeyouse 3y ago
    For those who don't want to play with the chart - we're apparently below the previous record by 1.5 million square kilometers of ocean with at least 15% ice compared to the record for the prior 45 years... so that's a bit concerning. https://i.imgur.com/2VgP96t.png https://i.imgur.com/2VgP96t.png
    - BobbyJo 3y ago

smallerfish 3y ago

North is up, and up is better than down. ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Gtm2Z_70 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Gtm2Z_70 PS did I really need to add /s? Anyway the video is an interesting watch about the implicit biases that come from map orientation.

kurthr 3y ago

Yeah, there wasn't really an ozone hole... in the northern hemisphere. Why did everybody talk about it so much and spend so much effort fixing it?

fnordpiglet 3y ago
Because it would grow if we didn’t?
- kurthr 3y ago
  That, and because ultimately the whole world is affected and the "news" is just there to motivate people and governments to do something about it. Pointing out that it's winter in the southern hemisphere right now isn't really relevant.