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> To your latter point, the US became significantly more bellicose after the War Department became the Defense Department (merged with the Navy Department). Di
by Zach_the_Lizard 3y ago
> To your latter point, the US became significantly more bellicose after the War Department became the Defense Department (merged with the Navy Department).
Did we?
After independence, we spent about a century engaged in war with native tribes until they'd effectively been wiped out. The conflicts spanned from Florida to California, Texas to the Dakotas.
We invaded and annexed half of Mexico. We attempted to invade Canada in the War of 1812. We fought in North Africa not long after securing our independence and would do so multiple times.
We were pioneers in industrial total war which we practiced upon ourselves in the Civil War.
We won Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines from Spain in a war that had much flimsier causes than WMDs in Iraq and lacked any semblance of a noble goal.
The Department of Defense came after WWII, and while we've had our fair share of at best misguided wars since then, it's not a recent development.
That's not to say the name isn't Orwellian in nature.
- baryphonic 3y agoI'm not sure I'd count fighting back against pirates or even skirmishing with natives as saber-rattling. The serious Indian Wars happened after the Civil War if for no other reason than the US had a large army with nothing to do. I made another comment conceding the point about the the Mexican-American and Spanish-American wars, which were fraudulent albeit separated by several decades. Nevertheless, the thought of the US Government unilaterally dropping bombs or executing a raid on sovereign foreign countries like we have done in Iraq or Pakistan would have been seen as outrageous before the DoD days, notwithstanding that the United States is the preeminent economic and military power today. But I think that fits in with OP's point: the incompetence is a feature of giant, hegemonic power, not a bug.