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The quote “Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds” is reason enough! They could have had Thanos say it as he wipes out half the universe and it’d still

The quote “Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds” is reason enough! They could have had Thanos say it as he wipes out half the universe and it’d still wouldn’t sound as cool.

xxs 3y ago
Yet, it's not an original quote at any rate - it's a reference to Bhagavad Gita
- zamfi 3y ago
  If anything that makes its use more interesting: > J. Robert Oppenheimer, American physicist and director of the Manhattan Project, learned Sanskrit in 1933 and read the Bhagavad Gita in the original form, citing it later as one of the most influential books to shape his philosophy of life. His later description of the moment is: > We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and, to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.
  - surgical_fire 3y ago
    "Now we are all sons of bitches"
AkshatJ27 3y ago
Video of Oppenheimer saying it with context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac
- wongarsu 3y ago
  To me it's really his delivery that sells the quote. The video is so much better than just seeing the words written down
scotchmi_st 3y ago
Except he didn't say it[1], or at least no-one who was there remembers him saying it, and it seems like it's something he added in a later revision of his own memory. As John von Neumann later said, 'sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it'. It's clearly what Oppenheimer wanted. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer#Trinity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer#Trinity
- TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
  But he does deserve credit for it. Not solely, but so what?
- wunderland 3y ago
  Here’s a video of Oppenheimer saying the famous quote https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac
  - SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
    The video is of Oppenheimer saying, "I _remembered_ the line ...". So he said it later. On the day, he only thought about it.
- NoboruWataya 3y ago
  He said in a later interview that he thought about the quote at the time (and, in so recalling, actually said the line in the interview). I don't think he ever claimed to have said it at the time. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the movie had him saying it for dramatic purposes.
- shri_krishna 3y ago
  > Except he didn't say it[1], or at least no-one who was there remembers him saying it, and it seems like it's something he added in a later revision of his own memory. Oppenheimer did not say he "said it". He said he "remembered" the verse.
yard2010 3y ago
"I suppose we all felt that, one way or another" Btw, the quote is from the Bhagavad Gita
- browningstreet 3y ago
  Linkin Park’s A Thousand Suns is one of my favorite deadlifting albums. They used his quote well on the second track: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YzpPy-ngAZI&feature=share https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YzpPy-ngAZI&feature=share
dav_Oz 3y ago
In the context of the Bhagavad Gita the quote given by Oppenheimer is actually pretty accurate if you look up the relevant passage in Sanskrit and consider possible translations: Chapter 11, Verse 30-33 [0]. A quick summary of the context in the Bhagavad Gita: Ajurna, an aristocratic (Pandava Prince) warrior highly skilled in archery - right before engaging in a battle of two armies (two groups of cousins: Kauravas and Pandavas) for the succession of the throne - upon seeing all his close kin arranged in two opposing parties all with their unique skills and feats ready to kill and be killed - the warrior prince falls into a deep emotional turmoil. He begins to talk to his charioteer Krishnu who reveals himself to be an avatar of the deity Vishnu. This dialogue evolves into a whole contemplation in which a part of the upanishadic cosmic view gets revealed to Arjuna/the reader; somewhat akin in style to the secular western form of Plato's dialogue (in this case the Socratic method is led by "reason" or "logos" not a sophisticated mythology like an avatar of a specific deity). The dharma in the specific case of Ajurna, is to fulfill his caste duty of Kshatriya [1]. Or from the lens of quantum mechanics and modern history the bomb in some way or another was inevitable. Its fine-tuned parameters (1) put in the Big Bang, the idea (2) conceived by Szilard [2] and the Anglo-American military apparatus (3) rather than merely convinced in its superiority putting the actual resources/technology into the ultimate pragmatic use [3][4] (first mover & cost/risk-reward ratio). [0]https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/11/verse/30 https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/11/verse/30 [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshatriya https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshatriya [2]https://www.newscientist.com/definition/invention-nuclear-bomb/ https://www.newscientist.com/definition/invention-nuclear-bo... [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapons_program#Comparison_to_the_Manhattan_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapons_program... [4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg#Membership_in_the_Uranverein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg#Membership_i...

The quote “Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds” is reason enough! They could have had Thanos say it as he wipes out half the universe and it’d still wouldn’t sound as cool.

xxs 3y ago

Yet, it's not an original quote at any rate - it's a reference to Bhagavad Gita

zamfi 3y ago
If anything that makes its use more interesting: > J. Robert Oppenheimer, American physicist and director of the Manhattan Project, learned Sanskrit in 1933 and read the Bhagavad Gita in the original form, citing it later as one of the most influential books to shape his philosophy of life. His later description of the moment is: > We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and, to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.
- surgical_fire 3y ago
  "Now we are all sons of bitches"

AkshatJ27 3y ago

Video of Oppenheimer saying it with context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac

wongarsu 3y ago
To me it's really his delivery that sells the quote. The video is so much better than just seeing the words written down

scotchmi_st 3y ago

Except he didn't say it[1], or at least no-one who was there remembers him saying it, and it seems like it's something he added in a later revision of his own memory. As John von Neumann later said, 'sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it'. It's clearly what Oppenheimer wanted. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer#Trinity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer#Trinity

TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
But he does deserve credit for it. Not solely, but so what?
wunderland 3y ago
Here’s a video of Oppenheimer saying the famous quote https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac
- SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
  The video is of Oppenheimer saying, "I _remembered_ the line ...". So he said it later. On the day, he only thought about it.
NoboruWataya 3y ago
He said in a later interview that he thought about the quote at the time (and, in so recalling, actually said the line in the interview). I don't think he ever claimed to have said it at the time. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the movie had him saying it for dramatic purposes.
shri_krishna 3y ago
> Except he didn't say it[1], or at least no-one who was there remembers him saying it, and it seems like it's something he added in a later revision of his own memory. Oppenheimer did not say he "said it". He said he "remembered" the verse.

yard2010 3y ago

"I suppose we all felt that, one way or another" Btw, the quote is from the Bhagavad Gita

browningstreet 3y ago
Linkin Park’s A Thousand Suns is one of my favorite deadlifting albums. They used his quote well on the second track: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YzpPy-ngAZI&feature=share https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YzpPy-ngAZI&feature=share

dav_Oz 3y ago

In the context of the Bhagavad Gita the quote given by Oppenheimer is actually pretty accurate if you look up the relevant passage in Sanskrit and consider possible translations: Chapter 11, Verse 30-33 [0]. A quick summary of the context in the Bhagavad Gita: Ajurna, an aristocratic (Pandava Prince) warrior highly skilled in archery - right before engaging in a battle of two armies (two groups of cousins: Kauravas and Pandavas) for the succession of the throne - upon seeing all his close kin arranged in two opposing parties all with their unique skills and feats ready to kill and be killed - the warrior prince falls into a deep emotional turmoil. He begins to talk to his charioteer Krishnu who reveals himself to be an avatar of the deity Vishnu. This dialogue evolves into a whole contemplation in which a part of the upanishadic cosmic view gets revealed to Arjuna/the reader; somewhat akin in style to the secular western form of Plato's dialogue (in this case the Socratic method is led by "reason" or "logos" not a sophisticated mythology like an avatar of a specific deity). The dharma in the specific case of Ajurna, is to fulfill his caste duty of Kshatriya [1]. Or from the lens of quantum mechanics and modern history the bomb in some way or another was inevitable. Its fine-tuned parameters (1) put in the Big Bang, the idea (2) conceived by Szilard [2] and the Anglo-American military apparatus (3) rather than merely convinced in its superiority putting the actual resources/technology into the ultimate pragmatic use [3][4] (first mover & cost/risk-reward ratio). [0]https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/11/verse/30 https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/11/verse/30 [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshatriya https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshatriya [2]https://www.newscientist.com/definition/invention-nuclear-bomb/ https://www.newscientist.com/definition/invention-nuclear-bo... [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapons_program#Comparison_to_the_Manhattan_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapons_program... [4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg#Membership_in_the_Uranverein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg#Membership_i...