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This seems like a free floating rant unrelated to the article. As noted in the article the police are one of the top three trusted institutions. > For instance

This seems like a free floating rant unrelated to the article. As noted in the article the police are one of the top three trusted institutions. > For instance, nowadays it's considered outdated and even racist to be patriotic. And this isn't true. Even if you assume half the country believes this, the other half certainly does not. Neither half seems to trust the government though.

glimshe 3y ago
The police is trusted by 43% in 2023 according to the article. Being top three at 43% just confirms my "rant".
- vaidhy 3y ago
  Why would you trust the police when the police does not earn the trust the population? What has changed is that their behavior is now more in the public eye.
- bilbo0s 3y ago
  I think many are missing what I believe may be a material point here. The institutions are not as trusted today as they were for our grandparents or great grandparents. This is true. At the same time, the institutions operate in a significantly different fashion today, than they did in our grandparent's or great grandparent's day. The police are a good example. 60 years ago a cop would have been walking a beat so to speak. Nowadays, that form of policing is thought to be laughable. Today our police operate in a manner that is more familiar to people who have done a tour in Iraq or Afghanistan. the difference being, they dispense with the Civil Affairs guys. So from the perspective of an observer with a bit of military training you can see an enormous difference between those two methods of practice. And the collapse of confidence in the contemporary environment would, frankly, be kind of expected by most military observers. The police are just a for instance here. Many of our institutions are, yes, less trusted, but also operating significantly differently than they operated when they were more trusted. And I think a lot of us get stuck on the "there is no trust" while losing sight of the "resource constraints oblige operational change" part of the issue.

glimshe 3y ago

The police is trusted by 43% in 2023 according to the article. Being top three at 43% just confirms my "rant".

vaidhy 3y ago
Why would you trust the police when the police does not earn the trust the population? What has changed is that their behavior is now more in the public eye.
bilbo0s 3y ago
I think many are missing what I believe may be a material point here. The institutions are not as trusted today as they were for our grandparents or great grandparents. This is true. At the same time, the institutions operate in a significantly different fashion today, than they did in our grandparent's or great grandparent's day. The police are a good example. 60 years ago a cop would have been walking a beat so to speak. Nowadays, that form of policing is thought to be laughable. Today our police operate in a manner that is more familiar to people who have done a tour in Iraq or Afghanistan. the difference being, they dispense with the Civil Affairs guys. So from the perspective of an observer with a bit of military training you can see an enormous difference between those two methods of practice. And the collapse of confidence in the contemporary environment would, frankly, be kind of expected by most military observers. The police are just a for instance here. Many of our institutions are, yes, less trusted, but also operating significantly differently than they operated when they were more trusted. And I think a lot of us get stuck on the "there is no trust" while losing sight of the "resource constraints oblige operational change" part of the issue.