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Find what works for your body without doing anything that makes you hate life. I tried the "eat less, exercise more" routine for two years straight when I weig

by pravus 3y ago

Find what works for your body without doing anything that makes you hate life. I tried the "eat less, exercise more" routine for two years straight when I weighed over 340 lbs. Calorie restriction and walking everyday. I lost 50 lbs but had to quit because I was no longer able to motivate myself to keep doing it because I was absolutely exhausted. Switched to keto on whim because I basically said "let me find something nutritious for my body that I can eat every day and satisfies me". The only option for me was paleo-related stuff. No exercise, no calorie counting and I lost 90lbs in a single year. I felt healthier, slept better, had better hair, skin and joints, and several people thought I had a disease I lost so much weight so quickly. 10 years in and I still do not count calories. Ever. I eat meat, dairy and protein with as little sugar and carbs as possible. I am never hungry. I eat what I want, when I want as long as it is low carb. I now consider this to be a solved problem for me. I'm not saying keto is for everyone, but find what works for you. It will be obvious to your body when you do.

somenameforme 3y ago
It's just the protein IMO. I've only relatively recently began taking weight training seriously, and it really opened my eyes to how different nutrients really can affect you. When I hit my protein goals (which is 1g per lb of body weight) I'm left basically force feeding myself, in spite of maintaining approximately the same calorie intake as before. Eating proper levels of protein just leaves you so absurdly full. I always read the same was true of fiber, but never experienced this at all myself. I love broccoli and could eat it all day long, literally. Notably just about the entire developed world is protein deficient. Factor in the DIAAS score [1] and the entire developed world is plainly malnourished as far as protein goes. DIAAS has to do with the fact that the digestibility (and amino acid balance) of protein varies by source. So, for instance to get the equivalent of 100 grams of protein from chicken breast, you'd need to consume 250 grams of protein from roasted peanuts. Even if somebody isn't working out, bumping up the protein (and protein quality) would almost certainly show great things. I went from relying on intermittent fasting and some fairly cautious eating to maintain my weight, to a "diet" that culminates in "Oh god, I just can't eat anymore!" owing to nothing but dramatic shifts in my protein (and protein quality) intake. --- The [rapidly diminishing] inverse correlation between veganism and obesity would seem to reject this, but I think that can be easily and entirely explained by the fact that vegans are people who have already voluntarily opted into ideologically motivated dietary restraint. If you're willing and able to not give into what your body wants, then you will have little to no difficulty controlling your weight. It just won't be pleasant. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestible_Indispensable_Amino_Acid_Score https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestible_Indispensable_Amino...
- hombre_fatal 3y ago
  > Notably just about the entire developed world is protein deficient. This is very a countervailing claim against what you find when you google protein needs, so I'd like to see some sources for it. Especially for people who aren't even working out. For example, top google results: - https://www.health.harvard.edu/nutrition/when-it-comes-to-protein-how-much-is-too-much https://www.health.harvard.edu/nutrition/when-it-comes-to-pr... - https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/resources/2020-2025-dietary-guidelines-online-materials https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/resources/2020-2025-dietar... """Contrary to all the hype that everyone needs more protein, most people in the U.S. meet or exceed their needs. This is especially true for males ages 19–59. The Dietary Guidelines for Americans, 2020–2025 indicate that men in that age range are exceeding their protein recommendations, especially from meat, poultry and eggs.""" > Eating proper levels of protein just leaves you so absurdly full. Let's say you eat 200g protein per day (1g/1lb weight). I can come up with wildly different dietary patterns that hit that goal. Frankly, the protein dense foods seem the least filling way to hit that number since they don't hit 2000+ calories. - 260g protein powder: 920 calories - 2100g tofu: 1800 calories - 750g beef sirloin: 1875 calories - 950g seitan: 1000 calories - 730g chicken breast: 1340 calories Not to say you should eat any one food item, but I think it's ancient broscience that protein is magically satiating, else you could easily fill up on protein powder and potatoes wouldn't be the most satiating food per calorie. So I think you're in broscience territory unless you elaborate a bit more.
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    > Contrary to all the hype that everyone needs more protein, most people in the U.S. meet or exceed their needs. This is especially true for males ages 19–59. did they back this claim by any sources? I somehow can't find this phrase there. Where did you find it exactly? Also, actively exercising person's protein intake requirements are usually considered significantly higher.
    - hombre_fatal 3y ago
      Well, why not work the opposite direction? How would you figure out how much protein you should eat starting with a google search bar? Which sources would you accept and what do those sources say?

by pravus 3y ago

somenameforme 3y ago

It's just the protein IMO. I've only relatively recently began taking weight training seriously, and it really opened my eyes to how different nutrients really can affect you. When I hit my protein goals (which is 1g per lb of body weight) I'm left basically force feeding myself, in spite of maintaining approximately the same calorie intake as before. Eating proper levels of protein just leaves you so absurdly full. I always read the same was true of fiber, but never experienced this at all myself. I love broccoli and could eat it all day long, literally. Notably just about the entire developed world is protein deficient. Factor in the DIAAS score [1] and the entire developed world is plainly malnourished as far as protein goes. DIAAS has to do with the fact that the digestibility (and amino acid balance) of protein varies by source. So, for instance to get the equivalent of 100 grams of protein from chicken breast, you'd need to consume 250 grams of protein from roasted peanuts. Even if somebody isn't working out, bumping up the protein (and protein quality) would almost certainly show great things. I went from relying on intermittent fasting and some fairly cautious eating to maintain my weight, to a "diet" that culminates in "Oh god, I just can't eat anymore!" owing to nothing but dramatic shifts in my protein (and protein quality) intake. --- The [rapidly diminishing] inverse correlation between veganism and obesity would seem to reject this, but I think that can be easily and entirely explained by the fact that vegans are people who have already voluntarily opted into ideologically motivated dietary restraint. If you're willing and able to not give into what your body wants, then you will have little to no difficulty controlling your weight. It just won't be pleasant. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestible_Indispensable_Amino_Acid_Score https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestible_Indispensable_Amino...

hombre_fatal 3y ago
> Notably just about the entire developed world is protein deficient. This is very a countervailing claim against what you find when you google protein needs, so I'd like to see some sources for it. Especially for people who aren't even working out. For example, top google results: - https://www.health.harvard.edu/nutrition/when-it-comes-to-protein-how-much-is-too-much https://www.health.harvard.edu/nutrition/when-it-comes-to-pr... - https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/resources/2020-2025-dietary-guidelines-online-materials https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/resources/2020-2025-dietar... """Contrary to all the hype that everyone needs more protein, most people in the U.S. meet or exceed their needs. This is especially true for males ages 19–59. The Dietary Guidelines for Americans, 2020–2025 indicate that men in that age range are exceeding their protein recommendations, especially from meat, poultry and eggs.""" > Eating proper levels of protein just leaves you so absurdly full. Let's say you eat 200g protein per day (1g/1lb weight). I can come up with wildly different dietary patterns that hit that goal. Frankly, the protein dense foods seem the least filling way to hit that number since they don't hit 2000+ calories. - 260g protein powder: 920 calories - 2100g tofu: 1800 calories - 750g beef sirloin: 1875 calories - 950g seitan: 1000 calories - 730g chicken breast: 1340 calories Not to say you should eat any one food item, but I think it's ancient broscience that protein is magically satiating, else you could easily fill up on protein powder and potatoes wouldn't be the most satiating food per calorie. So I think you're in broscience territory unless you elaborate a bit more.
- riku_iki 3y ago
  > Contrary to all the hype that everyone needs more protein, most people in the U.S. meet or exceed their needs. This is especially true for males ages 19–59. did they back this claim by any sources? I somehow can't find this phrase there. Where did you find it exactly? Also, actively exercising person's protein intake requirements are usually considered significantly higher.
  - hombre_fatal 3y ago
    Well, why not work the opposite direction? How would you figure out how much protein you should eat starting with a google search bar? Which sources would you accept and what do those sources say?