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Extreme taxes compared to Dubai, a government (or the EU on that matter) wanting to permanently dismantle end-to-end encryption, slow local authorities (however

Extreme taxes compared to Dubai, a government (or the EU on that matter) wanting to permanently dismantle end-to-end encryption, slow local authorities (however I don’t know the situation in Dubai concerning that - I assume though nearly every state on the earth is more efficient than Germany regarding bureaucracy), local authorities that often can’t communicate in English... Germany is not an attractive place for smaller companies, especially for those formed outside of the country and not perfectly familiar with the German language.

izacus 3y ago
Which of those reasons was quoted by Telegram and where?
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qlkjwenf 3y ago
Yeah, and tax authorities who refuse to communicate by using anything else but paper documents sent as letters... Glad I will leave Germany soon.
- Amfy 3y ago
  Where will you move to?
  - giords 3y ago
    Dubai
    - p-e-w 3y ago
      That's a logical choice. If you ever get in trouble there, you'll find that unlike in Germany, there won't be any bureaucracy or red tape at all. They'll deal with you very... efficiently.
- nostromo 3y ago
  Well, it’s surprisingly effective at preventing things like scams and phishing, and also guarantees a paper trail. It wouldn’t be on my list of reasons to leave a country.
- p-e-w 3y ago
  It took me a long time to realize that in the big picture, all those inefficiencies are actually upsides. Most of what governments do is harmful to society. The more inefficient and inept they are at it, the better. Sure, it may be an inconvenience sometimes. But it's nothing compared to the dystopian horror of what a truly efficient government would look like. The "ideal" government that works purely electronically through automatically-applied rules is the worst world I can imagine living in. Every additional day we can manage to hold off that future is a victory.
  - sofixa 3y ago
    > Most of what governments do is harmful to society Hard disagree. Some of what they do is harmful, and needs a vigilant and active population to keep at bay; but the vast vast majority is massively useful, or even critical. Decentralised (as in, not government managed/controlled/planned/regulated, where government could be anything from a single centralised one to a highly local one) infrastructure, education, consumer protections, healthcare, safety/security sound like a nightmare. Reminds me of thet libertarian utopia town with the bears (A Libertarian Walks into a Bear is a fun book). > (On libertrarians) House cats. They are convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don't appeciate or understand. ~ John Spaulding
  - kaba0 3y ago
    Yeah, please instead let that ultra-capitalist liberalist worldview bloom! I so want Coca Cola putting cocaine into my drinks, or some “food” company optimizing for quantity over basic health codes, or drug companies selling non-working fakes with questionable qualities! Governments, and their rules are one of the quintessential parts of our modern lives. Noone sane wants to live in the aforementioned utopia.
  - arein3 3y ago
    You lost hope in the government, but a good government is not focused on spying but on making life better, basically opposite of what you described. Governemnt can be efficient at building things, maintaining infrastructure, but not spying and controlling it's citizens.

izacus 3y ago

Which of those reasons was quoted by Telegram and where?

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qlkjwenf 3y ago

Yeah, and tax authorities who refuse to communicate by using anything else but paper documents sent as letters... Glad I will leave Germany soon.

Amfy 3y ago
Where will you move to?
- giords 3y ago
  Dubai
  - p-e-w 3y ago
    That's a logical choice. If you ever get in trouble there, you'll find that unlike in Germany, there won't be any bureaucracy or red tape at all. They'll deal with you very... efficiently.
nostromo 3y ago
Well, it’s surprisingly effective at preventing things like scams and phishing, and also guarantees a paper trail. It wouldn’t be on my list of reasons to leave a country.
p-e-w 3y ago
It took me a long time to realize that in the big picture, all those inefficiencies are actually upsides. Most of what governments do is harmful to society. The more inefficient and inept they are at it, the better. Sure, it may be an inconvenience sometimes. But it's nothing compared to the dystopian horror of what a truly efficient government would look like. The "ideal" government that works purely electronically through automatically-applied rules is the worst world I can imagine living in. Every additional day we can manage to hold off that future is a victory.
- sofixa 3y ago
  > Most of what governments do is harmful to society Hard disagree. Some of what they do is harmful, and needs a vigilant and active population to keep at bay; but the vast vast majority is massively useful, or even critical. Decentralised (as in, not government managed/controlled/planned/regulated, where government could be anything from a single centralised one to a highly local one) infrastructure, education, consumer protections, healthcare, safety/security sound like a nightmare. Reminds me of thet libertarian utopia town with the bears (A Libertarian Walks into a Bear is a fun book). > (On libertrarians) House cats. They are convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don't appeciate or understand. ~ John Spaulding
- kaba0 3y ago
  Yeah, please instead let that ultra-capitalist liberalist worldview bloom! I so want Coca Cola putting cocaine into my drinks, or some “food” company optimizing for quantity over basic health codes, or drug companies selling non-working fakes with questionable qualities! Governments, and their rules are one of the quintessential parts of our modern lives. Noone sane wants to live in the aforementioned utopia.
- arein3 3y ago
  You lost hope in the government, but a good government is not focused on spying but on making life better, basically opposite of what you described. Governemnt can be efficient at building things, maintaining infrastructure, but not spying and controlling it's citizens.