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At the same time, anecdotally it seems like the worst job market in tech since 2008. For instance, we had the ex Meta employee yesterday who had applied for 25

At the same time, anecdotally it seems like the worst job market in tech since 2008. For instance, we had the ex Meta employee yesterday who had applied for 2500 roles. What’s going on to stop the market from clearing?

CoastalCoder 3y ago
I'm guessing that it's the double whammy from the layoffs: fewer (attractive) positions, and now more people competing for what remains. I got laid off for the first time ever a few months ago, and I've been surprised how hard it is to find a job that will pay the bills. (I'm also surprised by how badly I've done on live coding tests. Apparently it's a skill that needs practice.)
Aloha 3y ago
Everyone is hiring, but HR uses very exactly keyword reviews, related, HR wants a top performer (based on some meaningless resume heuristics), but wont pay for it.
- the_only_law 3y ago
  > but HR uses very exactly keyword reviews The thing is, people have told me HR has been doing this for years. Hell I remember people doing crap like keyword stuffing the bottom of their resume and just making the text color match the background color (not that this is a great strategy) But this is the first time I’ve ever struggled to find a job in my career. I had a much much easier time when I was 18 and didn’t even have any real experience.
  - Aloha 3y ago
    The other part of this is "meaningless resume heuristics" - If you have the skillset for it, and are looking - look for software jobs outside of the traditional tech sector, in telecommunications for example. I had a friend who made this transition, and hes much happier now.
- ryandrake 3y ago
  Everyone says they are hiring, but in reality most are just sitting there holding fishing rods with their lines in the water. I don't believe any company that says they are unable to find candidates after these recent layoffs, and watching actual candidates getting ghosted after applying to hundreds (thousands) of jobs.

CoastalCoder 3y ago

I'm guessing that it's the double whammy from the layoffs: fewer (attractive) positions, and now more people competing for what remains. I got laid off for the first time ever a few months ago, and I've been surprised how hard it is to find a job that will pay the bills. (I'm also surprised by how badly I've done on live coding tests. Apparently it's a skill that needs practice.)

Aloha 3y ago

Everyone is hiring, but HR uses very exactly keyword reviews, related, HR wants a top performer (based on some meaningless resume heuristics), but wont pay for it.

the_only_law 3y ago
> but HR uses very exactly keyword reviews The thing is, people have told me HR has been doing this for years. Hell I remember people doing crap like keyword stuffing the bottom of their resume and just making the text color match the background color (not that this is a great strategy) But this is the first time I’ve ever struggled to find a job in my career. I had a much much easier time when I was 18 and didn’t even have any real experience.
- Aloha 3y ago
  The other part of this is "meaningless resume heuristics" - If you have the skillset for it, and are looking - look for software jobs outside of the traditional tech sector, in telecommunications for example. I had a friend who made this transition, and hes much happier now.
ryandrake 3y ago
Everyone says they are hiring, but in reality most are just sitting there holding fishing rods with their lines in the water. I don't believe any company that says they are unable to find candidates after these recent layoffs, and watching actual candidates getting ghosted after applying to hundreds (thousands) of jobs.