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My mothers been an educator for many many years now. She says the single biggest factor is parental involvement. But hey convincing both parents to be gone all

My mothers been an educator for many many years now. She says the single biggest factor is parental involvement. But hey convincing both parents to be gone all day and slave away for the corporate masters was smashing the patriarchy and breaking the glass ceiling or something, and the fact that it doubled the labor pool causing supply to go up is entirely unrelated to the fact that wages started stagnating at the same point. But really what use is a family anyway, I mean who needs that when you can have a "community" on a platform that is dedicated to "content" for you to "consume".

t-writescode 3y ago
Parental involvement works when there's just one parent, too, it's just harder on the single parent because they have to work so hard to be able to provide for themselves and their child; and, it only gets worse with the struggles the everyday person experiences - lower relative wages, etc.
slt2021 3y ago
> parental involvement How does that work for black mother of three kids on social programs, whose biological father is incarcerated/nowhere to be found around? This is the typical story of low achievement/high crime kids in public school system.
- dumpsterdiver 3y ago
  You realize that even by applying your question to a sad scenario you are still asking the basic question, "How does parental involvement work," right? Parental involvement "works" by taking an active interest in your child's activities and development. That's it.
  - slt2021 3y ago
    You cant magically start “involving” absent parents thats what I wanted to say, problem is much deeper than “oh, it is just parental involvement”
    - dumpsterdiver 3y ago
      Nor can a child be raised without at least one parental type figure. There is no magic involved.
      - slt2021 3y ago
        “Parental involvement” as a term is misleading because it assumes there are parents and you just need to start involving them ( like Asian tiger moms are super involved, now lets just make other parents befome as involved). More correct term would be “dysfunctional family”. Family where one parent is incarcerated, another is drug addict etc etc. This term more correctly describes situation that kid is alone in his education aspirations and needs state assistance
        dumpsterdiver 3y ago
        You speak of parents who have landed themselves in prison and become addicted to drugs as if they have no responsibility for these things. "Parental involvement" will always be waiting right where they left it if ever those parents can manage to stop doing drugs or going to prison.
        slt2021 3y ago
        My problem with this term is it centers around parents, regardless of whether they are alive/free/sober/gainfully employed/mentally stable/etc. But kids are going to school today and now, they cannot wait for their parents to get out of jail and get sober. These kids need solution asap and waiting for their parents to show up and get involved is a waste of time - and is a primary reason why US is failing kids from low SES and maintaining pipeline of people from hood to jail.
        dumpsterdiver 3y ago
        > My problem with this term is it centers around parents To be fair, the term in question is "parental involvement". It's understandable that some might be confused about why the "parental" part of the phrase is offensive.

t-writescode 3y ago

Parental involvement works when there's just one parent, too, it's just harder on the single parent because they have to work so hard to be able to provide for themselves and their child; and, it only gets worse with the struggles the everyday person experiences - lower relative wages, etc.

slt2021 3y ago

> parental involvement How does that work for black mother of three kids on social programs, whose biological father is incarcerated/nowhere to be found around? This is the typical story of low achievement/high crime kids in public school system.

dumpsterdiver 3y ago
You realize that even by applying your question to a sad scenario you are still asking the basic question, "How does parental involvement work," right? Parental involvement "works" by taking an active interest in your child's activities and development. That's it.
- slt2021 3y ago
  You cant magically start “involving” absent parents thats what I wanted to say, problem is much deeper than “oh, it is just parental involvement”
  - dumpsterdiver 3y ago
    Nor can a child be raised without at least one parental type figure. There is no magic involved.
    - slt2021 3y ago
      “Parental involvement” as a term is misleading because it assumes there are parents and you just need to start involving them ( like Asian tiger moms are super involved, now lets just make other parents befome as involved). More correct term would be “dysfunctional family”. Family where one parent is incarcerated, another is drug addict etc etc. This term more correctly describes situation that kid is alone in his education aspirations and needs state assistance
      - dumpsterdiver 3y ago
        You speak of parents who have landed themselves in prison and become addicted to drugs as if they have no responsibility for these things. "Parental involvement" will always be waiting right where they left it if ever those parents can manage to stop doing drugs or going to prison.
        slt2021 3y ago
        My problem with this term is it centers around parents, regardless of whether they are alive/free/sober/gainfully employed/mentally stable/etc. But kids are going to school today and now, they cannot wait for their parents to get out of jail and get sober. These kids need solution asap and waiting for their parents to show up and get involved is a waste of time - and is a primary reason why US is failing kids from low SES and maintaining pipeline of people from hood to jail.
        dumpsterdiver 3y ago
        > My problem with this term is it centers around parents To be fair, the term in question is "parental involvement". It's understandable that some might be confused about why the "parental" part of the phrase is offensive.