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Well, then I hate to tell you how bad public education is then. It is estimated that about 10% of public school students will receive sexual abuse from a teache

Well, then I hate to tell you how bad public education is then. It is estimated that about 10% of public school students will receive sexual abuse from a teacher or authority at some point in their education. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/02/is-sexual-abuse-in-schools-very-common.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/02/is-sexual-abuse-... This was also backed by the US Department of Education in 2004. Since then they've been very hesitant to revisit the issue. https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED483143.pdf https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED483143.pdf The New York Times was also admitting, way back in 1995, that about 5% of public school teachers are abusers. Considering how many teachers a child goes through, they'll probably meet a few. https://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/21/nyregion/teacher-student-sex-said-to-be-not-unusual.html https://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/21/nyregion/teacher-student-... I think that if it wasn't for the fact that it was school, sending your child to any place where there was a 1-in-10 chance of them being sexually abused would be a crime.

RavingGoat 3y ago
You're going to really hate when you look up how much sexual abuse there is in private schools then.
- gjsman-1000 3y ago
  Provide examples.
  - nobody9999 3y ago
    >Provide examples. Not GP, but here you go: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ftsa&q=sexual+abuse+in+private+schools&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ftsa&q=sexual+abuse+in+private+sch...
    - gjsman-1000 3y ago
      Lots of claims; but no statistics or estimates of prevalence there. I can point to the US Department of Education… you are pointing to anecdotal news reports.
thebooktocome 3y ago
Your first link is pretty terrible; it took forever to find the 2000 AAUW report it refers to. Here’s a more current version: https://www.aauw.org/app/uploads/2020/03/Crossing-the-Line-Sexual-Harassment-at-School.pdf https://www.aauw.org/app/uploads/2020/03/Crossing-the-Line-S... The 1-in-10 number is self-reported harassment which is different from teacher-on-student abuse but I don’t really care about the distinction. Your 1-in-20 number is a different metric entirely, by the way (as abusers are not one-to-one with abused). Again, I don’t really care about these wrinkles. Anyway, AAUW’s data doesn’t distinguish between reports from public and public charter, so you can’t use this data to draw conclusions about differences between public and religious schools. Furthermore, and this is the most important part, their main recommendation to reduce the incidence of abuse and discrimination in all schools (i.e., one of the things I actually want to minimize) is to promote more adherence to Title IX protections. Private schools have no legal obligation to provide any Title IX protections, and indeed some religious schools, by their very doctrine, cannot. Next time, if you’re going to demand statistics that don’t exist (as private schools have no reporting requirements and the AAUW report demonstrates that many institutions obviously underreport) please provide better links, thanks.

RavingGoat 3y ago

You're going to really hate when you look up how much sexual abuse there is in private schools then.

gjsman-1000 3y ago
Provide examples.
- nobody9999 3y ago
  >Provide examples. Not GP, but here you go: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ftsa&q=sexual+abuse+in+private+schools&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ftsa&q=sexual+abuse+in+private+sch...
  - gjsman-1000 3y ago
    Lots of claims; but no statistics or estimates of prevalence there. I can point to the US Department of Education… you are pointing to anecdotal news reports.

thebooktocome 3y ago

Your first link is pretty terrible; it took forever to find the 2000 AAUW report it refers to. Here’s a more current version: https://www.aauw.org/app/uploads/2020/03/Crossing-the-Line-Sexual-Harassment-at-School.pdf https://www.aauw.org/app/uploads/2020/03/Crossing-the-Line-S... The 1-in-10 number is self-reported harassment which is different from teacher-on-student abuse but I don’t really care about the distinction. Your 1-in-20 number is a different metric entirely, by the way (as abusers are not one-to-one with abused). Again, I don’t really care about these wrinkles. Anyway, AAUW’s data doesn’t distinguish between reports from public and public charter, so you can’t use this data to draw conclusions about differences between public and religious schools. Furthermore, and this is the most important part, their main recommendation to reduce the incidence of abuse and discrimination in all schools (i.e., one of the things I actually want to minimize) is to promote more adherence to Title IX protections. Private schools have no legal obligation to provide any Title IX protections, and indeed some religious schools, by their very doctrine, cannot. Next time, if you’re going to demand statistics that don’t exist (as private schools have no reporting requirements and the AAUW report demonstrates that many institutions obviously underreport) please provide better links, thanks.