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How are the trackpads on these? The trackpad on the MacBook is probably one of the main reasons I can’t go back to another laptop.

Rebelgecko 3y ago
On previous generations I think it's decent. The main annoyances are that when I touch the glass a certain way I can feel a scratch or divot, and the pressure it takes to click varies based on where you click. Overall I think the hardware is great, my complaints are mostly with software/firmware/BIOS. My biggest complaints are with battery life, especially during standby. Framework has been working on a fix since 2022 but no dice so far. -Sent from my Framework laptop at maximum brightness because the brightness keys don't work unless I disable other sensors on the laptop
- syntaxing 3y ago
  Battery life is probably my biggest reservation. The fact the MBP/MBA has 20 hrs of USAGE is unbeatable still. How is the power suspend? I had huge issues with Linux laptops, if I left it unplugged, the battery would drain 10% a day where it seems like a couple % on MacOS
  - Rebelgecko 3y ago
    Similar... I lose about 10%/day when the laptop is asleep. Some flavors of Linux easily transition to hibernate (which has much lower drain) if the laptop is asleep for a while, but I haven't gotten that to work in Fedora.
wildrhythms 3y ago
I have a M1 Macbook Air and a Framework 13, and the trackpad is objectively worse on the Framework. A little mushy, a little inconsistent in the click pressure needed across the surface, palm rejection is still an unsolved problem it seems, and I haven't found a Linux DE that can do three-finger drag and other gestures as naturally as the Macbook has been doing it for over a decade. :/ I hardly ever use the thing now because it's slower and hotter than the Air, blasting fans with a single Twitch stream running in the background, and about the same price too.
- syntaxing 3y ago
  Have you used PopOS? Yeah, the battery life and efficiency is amazing on the M1. I wonder if the new Ryzen 7 APU on these will be better.

Rebelgecko 3y ago

On previous generations I think it's decent. The main annoyances are that when I touch the glass a certain way I can feel a scratch or divot, and the pressure it takes to click varies based on where you click. Overall I think the hardware is great, my complaints are mostly with software/firmware/BIOS. My biggest complaints are with battery life, especially during standby. Framework has been working on a fix since 2022 but no dice so far. -Sent from my Framework laptop at maximum brightness because the brightness keys don't work unless I disable other sensors on the laptop

syntaxing 3y ago
Battery life is probably my biggest reservation. The fact the MBP/MBA has 20 hrs of USAGE is unbeatable still. How is the power suspend? I had huge issues with Linux laptops, if I left it unplugged, the battery would drain 10% a day where it seems like a couple % on MacOS
- Rebelgecko 3y ago
  Similar... I lose about 10%/day when the laptop is asleep. Some flavors of Linux easily transition to hibernate (which has much lower drain) if the laptop is asleep for a while, but I haven't gotten that to work in Fedora.

wildrhythms 3y ago

I have a M1 Macbook Air and a Framework 13, and the trackpad is objectively worse on the Framework. A little mushy, a little inconsistent in the click pressure needed across the surface, palm rejection is still an unsolved problem it seems, and I haven't found a Linux DE that can do three-finger drag and other gestures as naturally as the Macbook has been doing it for over a decade. :/ I hardly ever use the thing now because it's slower and hotter than the Air, blasting fans with a single Twitch stream running in the background, and about the same price too.

syntaxing 3y ago
Have you used PopOS? Yeah, the battery life and efficiency is amazing on the M1. I wonder if the new Ryzen 7 APU on these will be better.