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You're perpetuating a silly myth which is along the same lines as the "language X sucks because it attracts Y-type programmers." Don't hate a valuable tool jus

You're perpetuating a silly myth which is along the same lines as the "language X sucks because it attracts Y-type programmers." Don't hate a valuable tool just because you've seen it misused. Also, don't assume that because a person uses or even prefers one development environment, that he or she is incapable of working outside that. claims he knows scala .. there are no mature debugger for scala in eclipse. For him a eclipse plugin is a necessary condition. What's wrong with that? If your favorite editor is vim with a host of preferred customization and plugins, and I tell you that at my company we only allow the use of TextPad, are you going to be happy about that? How is it wrong for a developer to prefer working from within a particular environment? I hear people talk about muscle memory and the power of vim, yet when the table is turned they cry about crutches and ineptitude.

srean 15y ago
And then I claim that you are indulging in a "silly" refutation of things that I have not said and you are conflating concepts of necessity and sufficiency. I guess we all have our trigger happy moments. Also keep in mind that optimal decision making requires that prior probabilities be taken into account together with the costs of false posotives, cost of false negatives and the cost of acquiring evidence. Evidence does change posterior beliefs but but Bayes' rule essentially dictates that stronger claims (i.e. low prior) require stronger evidence.
- georgieporgie 15y ago
  refutation of things that I have not said How's that? You're a technology bigot, plain and simple.
  - srean 15y ago
    This is getting beyond silly, and I dislike long threads, but if you insist this is how: I dont hate an IDE I advocate it. Circumstances matter. I do not assume, I verify and learn from past experience. You may find this helpful http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_probability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_probability I have no problems about users preferring one tool over another. I re-iterate , "preference" is different from necessity. I am not sure why I am re-repeating myself. Apparently it does not make a difference and dont expect that it would even now. Perhaps an integrated reading/comprehension environment is called for.
    - georgieporgie 15y ago
      People who advocate IDEs don't define them as crutches, nor do they judge a developer for his preferred environment. You can add all the disclaimers you want, but you made your position clear. Stop trying to be condescending and own up to your words.

srean 15y ago

And then I claim that you are indulging in a "silly" refutation of things that I have not said and you are conflating concepts of necessity and sufficiency. I guess we all have our trigger happy moments. Also keep in mind that optimal decision making requires that prior probabilities be taken into account together with the costs of false posotives, cost of false negatives and the cost of acquiring evidence. Evidence does change posterior beliefs but but Bayes' rule essentially dictates that stronger claims (i.e. low prior) require stronger evidence.

georgieporgie 15y ago
refutation of things that I have not said How's that? You're a technology bigot, plain and simple.
- srean 15y ago
  This is getting beyond silly, and I dislike long threads, but if you insist this is how: I dont hate an IDE I advocate it. Circumstances matter. I do not assume, I verify and learn from past experience. You may find this helpful http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_probability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_probability I have no problems about users preferring one tool over another. I re-iterate , "preference" is different from necessity. I am not sure why I am re-repeating myself. Apparently it does not make a difference and dont expect that it would even now. Perhaps an integrated reading/comprehension environment is called for.
  - georgieporgie 15y ago
    People who advocate IDEs don't define them as crutches, nor do they judge a developer for his preferred environment. You can add all the disclaimers you want, but you made your position clear. Stop trying to be condescending and own up to your words.