To me, it is absolutely obvious. I have worked with lots of people in tech; mainly non-programmers (eg: lab managers, system engineers, cloud architects, etc).

To me, it is absolutely obvious. I have worked with lots of people in tech; mainly non-programmers (eg: lab managers, system engineers, cloud architects, etc). And, from my experience, many of those people prefer to talk face-to-face about detailed and difficult problems. Grabbing a marker and heading to a white-board to hammer out a tough problem is far better than a Zoom call with the drawing app. Can you do the same thing on a Zoom call? Sure, you can. But I think the results are much better in a face-to-face discussion.