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> how do you justify the friction of VSCode (as you yourself put it, VSCode isn't perfect) when you have tools such as vim, neovim, emacs, or whatever else that

by stnmtn 3y ago

> how do you justify the friction of VSCode (as you yourself put it, VSCode isn't perfect) when you have tools such as vim, neovim, emacs, or whatever else that are designed to help reduce friction for a modest but steep initial learning curve. Because VSCode also is designed to reduce friction for a modest but (less) steep initial learning curve. I have used vim a lot. I've also used VSCode a lot. It sounds like you haven't dived into VSCode in the same way you've dived into Vim. I'm trusting you that your Vim setup, after tweaking it to your liking and diving into it, is perfect for you. So I'm asking you to trust me (and the other commenter), and my VSCode setup, after tweaking it and diving into it, is perfect for me. Using Vim emulation in VSCode, plus the richness of VSCode configurability, I have an environment I'm over the moon about, and it was less steep of a learning curve than Vim. You seem to think that anything that isn't Vim or Emacs can not compare. I'm asking you to reconsider that.

Arch-TK 3y ago
>You seem to think that anything that isn't Vim or Emacs can not compare. I'm asking you to reconsider that. I don't think you have read the discussion between me and the other commenter very thoroughly if you came to this conclusion. I have repeatedly re-iterated my stance so I would rather not do it again but tools such as VS code are inherently inflexible (I have put a couple of weeks into trialling and configuring vscode) for good reasons and to tailor to a specific audience. My argument is that for the other audience, tools such as Vim or Emacs (or in some extremes, writing your own editor or using something even more obscure) offer superior flexibility and offer the possibility of much reduced friction in exchange for more time needed to learn, configure and maitain and that this setup is worth it for that different target audience which the person I was talking to has indicated membership in. For a more in depth overview of my stance, please don't skim read what I wrote and as a result jump to incorrect conclusions.

by stnmtn 3y ago

Arch-TK 3y ago

>You seem to think that anything that isn't Vim or Emacs can not compare. I'm asking you to reconsider that. I don't think you have read the discussion between me and the other commenter very thoroughly if you came to this conclusion. I have repeatedly re-iterated my stance so I would rather not do it again but tools such as VS code are inherently inflexible (I have put a couple of weeks into trialling and configuring vscode) for good reasons and to tailor to a specific audience. My argument is that for the other audience, tools such as Vim or Emacs (or in some extremes, writing your own editor or using something even more obscure) offer superior flexibility and offer the possibility of much reduced friction in exchange for more time needed to learn, configure and maitain and that this setup is worth it for that different target audience which the person I was talking to has indicated membership in. For a more in depth overview of my stance, please don't skim read what I wrote and as a result jump to incorrect conclusions.