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It is heated because there are a lot of different parties and power dynamics. You've got workers that want to work from home. You have workers that really don'
by _ea1k 3y ago
It is heated because there are a lot of different parties and power dynamics.
You've got workers that want to work from home. You have workers that really don't want to work from home.
Then you've also got antiworkers that want to "work" from home. And antiworkers that want to "work" from the office and get facetime so they can still make career progress.
And then you've got facilities management people that need to justify office space. What happens if they don't? Do they still have jobs if a lot of offices get cancelled?
Then you've got sales types who need an office for occasional client meetings. And corporate politics makes that hard if they can't justify it by having the few local workers show up regularly.
I've probably left out many ulterior motives, because there are plenty. Any time there are plenty of unspoken motives, things get heated easily.
- x86x87 3y agoImho it's not that complicated and it's mostly driven by CRE and desire to have strict control over the worker's time.
- rhaway84773 3y agoA huge part of why this debate is reductive mindsets like these where something that’s ridiculously complicated to the point where nearly every individual involved has their own unique situation, is reduced to “the people who want what I don’t want are just doing it for evil”.
- sydbarrett74 3y ago'Even a broken clock...'
- Justsignedup 3y agoThis puts it quite well. And a company who has to support remote and non remote kinda have an issue since they now have to know how to work both ways.
- loupol 3y agoAlso managers that think "time spent with butt on a chair where I can see him" is a good metric for estimated productivity. But yeah you've got a ton of competing dynamics which make the problem hard.
- jwestbury 3y ago> Then you've got sales types who need an office for occasional client meetings. And corporate politics makes that hard if they can't justify it by having the few local workers show up regularly. I worked at Dropbox for a couple of years post-remote-work, and I think they got this bit right: They kept a substantial amount of office space, kept on-site cafes, and turned those office spaces into collaboration spaces. You aren't supposed to (officially, "allowed to") use them for solo work. But, team off-sites are now on-sites, so there's always a smattering of people in the office, and there's plenty of space for sales to have client meetings as necessary, too. And, despite the requirements not to, I know there are people who go in just for some coworking at times.