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Drone deliveries substitute for cars and trucks, which kill 20 pedestrians every day in the US.

by ggreer 3y ago

lolinder 3y ago
That's the stat for all cars and trucks, but drone delivery isn't going to get commuters off the road. How many deaths are due to package delivery vehicles? More specifically, how many are due to the vehicles that will actually be replaced by drones? That's the number to beat, and even a single collision with an airplane would most likely make up the yearly allotment before we even get into "package falls on someone's head", "drone runs out of battery over the freeway", and all the other failure modes a drone has.
- JoeAltmaier 3y ago
  That's why it's important to regularize drone traffic before it get out of hand. Safe flyways to get to neighborhoods. Delivery routes that find residential homes less busy (e.g. when school is in session). On the subject of vehicles-causing-accidents, it's possible delivery trucks trying to beat a deadline may be over-represented in statistics. Speeding, driving aggressively, parking all over the place. So there's that.
- ggreer 3y ago
  Drones are point to point delivery, which is why they're currently used for transporting high priority items like cooked food and blood transfusions. If drones were legalized in more places, they'd substitute for quick trips to the store. This would be safer for everyone involved and reduce pollution. Planes fly at much higher altitudes than delivery drones, so the only collision worries would be near airports. The FAA already bans drones near airports and requires special authorization to fly a drone within miles of major airports. Even if you get approval, you can't exceed 400 feet above ground level.
rchaud 3y ago
All 20 deaths/day are attributable to delivery drivers?
- ggreer 3y ago
  Of course not, but drones substitute for more than just delivery drivers, and delivery drivers do run over people regularly. Searching for terms like "fedex driver crash" gets you plenty of crashes and a decent number of deaths.[1] The most common casualties seem to be the drivers themselves and dogs. Most deaths are ruled accidental, but around once a year a delivery driver is charged with homicide for killing people with their truck.[2][3] In cases where an unsupervised child is killed, the blame is usually placed on the parents rather than the driver.[4] If you're worried about delivery drones flying over neighborhoods, you should be even more worried about multi-ton delivery trucks barreling through places where kids play. 1. https://pix11.com/news/local-news/cyclist-fatally-struck-by-amazon-truck-nypd/ https://pix11.com/news/local-news/cyclist-fatally-struck-by-... 2. https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/traffic/2021/12/driver-of-fedex-truck-that-struck-motorcycle-killing-2-is-charged-vehicular-homicide-authorities-say.html https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/traffic/2021/12/driver-of-f... 3. https://mynbc15.com/news/local/mobile-ups-driver-indicted-for-vehicular-homicide-in-death-of-driver-and-passenger https://mynbc15.com/news/local/mobile-ups-driver-indicted-fo... 4. https://www.foxla.com/news/amazon-denying-responsibility-after-truck-struck-and-killed-toddler-lawyer-claims https://www.foxla.com/news/amazon-denying-responsibility-aft...
rurp 3y ago
Tiny helicopters crashing into things and falling from the sky are harmless?
- JoeAltmaier 3y ago
  Come on. Compared to a truck?

Drone deliveries substitute for cars and trucks, which kill 20 pedestrians every day in the US.

by ggreer 3y ago

Drone deliveries substitute for cars and trucks, which kill 20 pedestrians every day in the US.

That's the stat for all cars and trucks, but drone delivery isn't going to get commuters off the road. How many deaths are due to package delivery vehicles? More specifically, how many are due to the vehicles that will actually be replaced by drones? That's the number to beat, and even a single collision with an airplane would most likely make up the yearly allotment before we even get into "package falls on someone's head", "drone runs out of battery over the freeway", and all the other failure modes a drone has.

JoeAltmaier 3y ago
That's why it's important to regularize drone traffic before it get out of hand. Safe flyways to get to neighborhoods. Delivery routes that find residential homes less busy (e.g. when school is in session). On the subject of vehicles-causing-accidents, it's possible delivery trucks trying to beat a deadline may be over-represented in statistics. Speeding, driving aggressively, parking all over the place. So there's that.
ggreer 3y ago
Drones are point to point delivery, which is why they're currently used for transporting high priority items like cooked food and blood transfusions. If drones were legalized in more places, they'd substitute for quick trips to the store. This would be safer for everyone involved and reduce pollution. Planes fly at much higher altitudes than delivery drones, so the only collision worries would be near airports. The FAA already bans drones near airports and requires special authorization to fly a drone within miles of major airports. Even if you get approval, you can't exceed 400 feet above ground level.

rchaud 3y ago

All 20 deaths/day are attributable to delivery drivers?

ggreer 3y ago
Of course not, but drones substitute for more than just delivery drivers, and delivery drivers do run over people regularly. Searching for terms like "fedex driver crash" gets you plenty of crashes and a decent number of deaths.[1] The most common casualties seem to be the drivers themselves and dogs. Most deaths are ruled accidental, but around once a year a delivery driver is charged with homicide for killing people with their truck.[2][3] In cases where an unsupervised child is killed, the blame is usually placed on the parents rather than the driver.[4] If you're worried about delivery drones flying over neighborhoods, you should be even more worried about multi-ton delivery trucks barreling through places where kids play. 1. https://pix11.com/news/local-news/cyclist-fatally-struck-by-amazon-truck-nypd/ https://pix11.com/news/local-news/cyclist-fatally-struck-by-... 2. https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/traffic/2021/12/driver-of-fedex-truck-that-struck-motorcycle-killing-2-is-charged-vehicular-homicide-authorities-say.html https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/traffic/2021/12/driver-of-f... 3. https://mynbc15.com/news/local/mobile-ups-driver-indicted-for-vehicular-homicide-in-death-of-driver-and-passenger https://mynbc15.com/news/local/mobile-ups-driver-indicted-fo... 4. https://www.foxla.com/news/amazon-denying-responsibility-after-truck-struck-and-killed-toddler-lawyer-claims https://www.foxla.com/news/amazon-denying-responsibility-aft...

rurp 3y ago

Tiny helicopters crashing into things and falling from the sky are harmless?

JoeAltmaier 3y ago
Come on. Compared to a truck?