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Yeah, this kind of article would never fail to mention Russia and Putin. But what is never mentioned: 1. Germany has no energy sources. USA had blown up the pi

Yeah, this kind of article would never fail to mention Russia and Putin. But what is never mentioned: 1. Germany has no energy sources. USA had blown up the pipelines delivering cheap energy from Russia that German industry needs badly (so, German industry has been closing and has declining output since), also in just as brain-dead move Germany closed all its nuclear plants. 2. USA is deliberately suffocating German economy. First, dieselgate. Then, "fine" for Deutsche Bank for "provoking crisis of 2008". Then making Germany loose access to cheap energy and providing money to German industrial companies that want to move their plants from Germany (where they have no future due to lack of energy and other resources that were imported from Russia) to USA.

nforgerit 3y ago
German here. > USA had blown up the pipelines delivering cheap energy from Russia Well, did they? I know this theory but AFAIK they could trace it back to some people in Ukrainian military. Western secret services (afair from Netherlands) even warned them twice that this was being planned but they didn’t react. > USA is deliberately suffocating German economy. Sorry, but those are ALL mistakes made by Germans themselves. They have been cheating, they have been lobbying the German governments to ease transformation cost for short-sighted profit, the (conservative) German governments acted to slow down renewables while quitting nuclear power earlier than planned. I think it’s not a coincidence that Putin started the war on Ukraine just at the time, Germany phased out its last nuclear power plants. It’s all stupidity on the German side, esp. when Merkel is still claiming that “she always knew who Putin really was”.
- anticodon 3y ago
  > Well, did they? I know this theory but AFAIK they could trace it back to some people in Ukrainian military. Western secret services (afair from Netherlands) even warned them twice that this was being planned but they didn’t react. Such operation can't be performed by amateurs from a rented yacht. It requires experience and resources available only to few countries on Earth. Also, it was just a version published by Western media without any hard evidence. > Sorry, but those are ALL mistakes made by Germans themselves. It's not possible to tell if they are unless there's an investigation, but there would be never such an investigation because Germany is an occupied country for 78 years. It's quite clear from the consequences, that Olaf Sholz, Annalena Baerbock, and other German politics do things that affect German industry and economics negatively at the same time improving US economy and making Germany more dependent on US.
  - nforgerit 3y ago
    Well, that's too much in the realm of conspiracy theories told by right- and left wing extremists in Germany. Let me just say one thing: It doesn't necessarily take the US for German leadership to shoot their feet.
partiallypro 3y ago
There is no evidence that the US blew up the pipeline other than a crackpot journalist (citing a single source he can't name) that did something 20 years ago and has come up with nothing since. "Germany has no energy sources," is just false, they were warned for decades on this topic. They had plenty of time to diversity, but they didn't. "USA is deliberately suffocating German economy." This is just patently false.

nforgerit 3y ago

German here. > USA had blown up the pipelines delivering cheap energy from Russia Well, did they? I know this theory but AFAIK they could trace it back to some people in Ukrainian military. Western secret services (afair from Netherlands) even warned them twice that this was being planned but they didn’t react. > USA is deliberately suffocating German economy. Sorry, but those are ALL mistakes made by Germans themselves. They have been cheating, they have been lobbying the German governments to ease transformation cost for short-sighted profit, the (conservative) German governments acted to slow down renewables while quitting nuclear power earlier than planned. I think it’s not a coincidence that Putin started the war on Ukraine just at the time, Germany phased out its last nuclear power plants. It’s all stupidity on the German side, esp. when Merkel is still claiming that “she always knew who Putin really was”.

anticodon 3y ago
> Well, did they? I know this theory but AFAIK they could trace it back to some people in Ukrainian military. Western secret services (afair from Netherlands) even warned them twice that this was being planned but they didn’t react. Such operation can't be performed by amateurs from a rented yacht. It requires experience and resources available only to few countries on Earth. Also, it was just a version published by Western media without any hard evidence. > Sorry, but those are ALL mistakes made by Germans themselves. It's not possible to tell if they are unless there's an investigation, but there would be never such an investigation because Germany is an occupied country for 78 years. It's quite clear from the consequences, that Olaf Sholz, Annalena Baerbock, and other German politics do things that affect German industry and economics negatively at the same time improving US economy and making Germany more dependent on US.
- nforgerit 3y ago
  Well, that's too much in the realm of conspiracy theories told by right- and left wing extremists in Germany. Let me just say one thing: It doesn't necessarily take the US for German leadership to shoot their feet.

partiallypro 3y ago

There is no evidence that the US blew up the pipeline other than a crackpot journalist (citing a single source he can't name) that did something 20 years ago and has come up with nothing since. "Germany has no energy sources," is just false, they were warned for decades on this topic. They had plenty of time to diversity, but they didn't. "USA is deliberately suffocating German economy." This is just patently false.