> This goes below the minimum bar in my opinion. I'm not giving you a justification, I'm telling you how it is. > Real engineers don't get away with fuckups

> This goes below the minimum bar in my opinion. I'm not giving you a justification, I'm telling you how it is. > Real engineers don't get away with fuckups with real consequences because of their salary. I mean they absolutely do. What is a "real" engineer anyway? I am a licensed engineer (electrical) because I used to work independently as an engineering firm. I understand the various definitions. The overwhelming majority of those with a title of electrical or computer engineer do not have any kind of professional licensure or certification - at best they may have an accredited 4 year degree. None of these people are going to be personally liable for fuckups of any kind in their careers.