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Define "smaller houses". Smaller than what? I can find tiny(er) houses compared to what I posted in recent developments/sub-divisions in the suburbs of Toronto

Define "smaller houses". Smaller than what? I can find tiny(er) houses compared to what I posted in recent developments/sub-divisions in the suburbs of Toronto (Mississauga, Oakville, Brampton, Pickering, Oshawa, etc). All the streets in question have big(er) and small(er) houses, with both semi- and fully-detached houses. Some areas have more of some kind than another. Next time I'll re-arrange the order of the links so that the big(er) stuff is first: * https://www.google.com/maps/place/150+Geoffrey+St,+Toronto,+ON https://www.google.com/maps/place/150+Geoffrey+St,+Toronto,+... There are two subways stations (Keele, Dundas West) with-in 2km of that location. You can have sizeable fully-detached houses at densities that support walking distances of various amenities and mass transit. The idea that urban living necessitates "smaller houses and share walls" is a red herring as demonstrated by a whole bunch of housing stock built pre-WW2.

vel0city 3y ago
I'm not sure what the average square footage of that Geoffrey location is, I'm not great at eyeballing that. But the average US SFH is what, almost 2,500sqft these days? I imagine these are less than that figure? EDIT: I just did some quick Google Maps measuring on that 159 Geoffrey St, I estimated about 60x20 floor plate, maybe less. Lose some space from the stairs, two mostly full floors and maybe a finished attic, probably close to that 2,500ish sqft.
- throw0101a 3y ago
  Recently sold, 2700 sq. ft: * https://juliekinnear.com/toronto-houses/51-geoffrey-street/ https://juliekinnear.com/toronto-houses/51-geoffrey-street/ Currently for sale in the same area: * https://www.properly.ca/buy/home/view/JHfk2xo4TU6BZrfBk2c3gw/on/toronto/66-parkdale-rd/ https://www.properly.ca/buy/home/view/JHfk2xo4TU6BZrfBk2c3gw... Notice the 'high' prices: this is because this neighbourhood is in high demand because urban living seems to be cool again 'with the kids'. But back in the 1960s, '70s, and '80s the prices were much, much lower because all the 'cool kids' (WASPs) were flocking to the then-new suburbs and leaving the dirty city for the immigrants (Poles in the case of Roncesvalles; Little Portugal is the next area over, and Little Italy next to that). Since the late-1990s urban living started becoming cool again. Of course such urban/walkable neighbourhoods aren't built any more, so a finite resource gets its price bidded up.
  - vel0city 3y ago
    So I guess your point is you can buy just as much square footage in the city, provided an unlimited budget. Nice to live in a world where a $2M house is a normal home price. I definitely don't live anywhere near that. So for me to live in that kind of an area, I'd probably need...a much smaller house and probably a shared wall.
    - hdl 3y ago
      And they are priced like that because there is a limited supply... because they are illegal to build in the USA...
      - vel0city 3y ago
        You may be surprised to find out but the house we're talking about isn't in the US. Also, just curious, what does a 2,700sqft single family house in London go for? Or Copenhagen? Or other very walkable European cities? Super cheap because they're not the US I presume?

vel0city 3y ago

I'm not sure what the average square footage of that Geoffrey location is, I'm not great at eyeballing that. But the average US SFH is what, almost 2,500sqft these days? I imagine these are less than that figure? EDIT: I just did some quick Google Maps measuring on that 159 Geoffrey St, I estimated about 60x20 floor plate, maybe less. Lose some space from the stairs, two mostly full floors and maybe a finished attic, probably close to that 2,500ish sqft.

throw0101a 3y ago
Recently sold, 2700 sq. ft: * https://juliekinnear.com/toronto-houses/51-geoffrey-street/ https://juliekinnear.com/toronto-houses/51-geoffrey-street/ Currently for sale in the same area: * https://www.properly.ca/buy/home/view/JHfk2xo4TU6BZrfBk2c3gw/on/toronto/66-parkdale-rd/ https://www.properly.ca/buy/home/view/JHfk2xo4TU6BZrfBk2c3gw... Notice the 'high' prices: this is because this neighbourhood is in high demand because urban living seems to be cool again 'with the kids'. But back in the 1960s, '70s, and '80s the prices were much, much lower because all the 'cool kids' (WASPs) were flocking to the then-new suburbs and leaving the dirty city for the immigrants (Poles in the case of Roncesvalles; Little Portugal is the next area over, and Little Italy next to that). Since the late-1990s urban living started becoming cool again. Of course such urban/walkable neighbourhoods aren't built any more, so a finite resource gets its price bidded up.
- vel0city 3y ago
  So I guess your point is you can buy just as much square footage in the city, provided an unlimited budget. Nice to live in a world where a $2M house is a normal home price. I definitely don't live anywhere near that. So for me to live in that kind of an area, I'd probably need...a much smaller house and probably a shared wall.
  - hdl 3y ago
    And they are priced like that because there is a limited supply... because they are illegal to build in the USA...
    - vel0city 3y ago
      You may be surprised to find out but the house we're talking about isn't in the US. Also, just curious, what does a 2,700sqft single family house in London go for? Or Copenhagen? Or other very walkable European cities? Super cheap because they're not the US I presume?