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> can’t put my finger on why this is so much better than everyone else Because it doesn't move. When you press down on an Apple touchpad, it doesn't displace a
by post-it 3y ago
> can’t put my finger on why this is so much better than everyone else
Because it doesn't move. When you press down on an Apple touchpad, it doesn't displace at all, it vibrates. This gives you an identical touch response across the entire trackpad, plus nifty things like Force Touch and customizable response intensity.
Nobody else has done it, and it makes every other touchpad feel awful.
- RandallBrown 3y agoEven before Apple did that their trackpads were dramatically better.
- dsego 3y agoThe t480s on linux is not bad for pointing and dragging, multi finger gestures of course aren't close. I could live with it. But on windows, clicking is totally broken, if your finger moves just slightly (and it does, since it's hinged), the click isn't registered. The gestures are a joke, since they just play out an animation instead of locking onto the finger motion.
- RajT88 3y agoI'm just surprised that people feel so passionately about touchpads/trackpads. Apple can have the best one, sure, I believe it. But they still are bad pointing devices as a type of pointing device. People have gotten used to them, because what else can you really fit into a laptop?
- herval 3y agoIt's not a bad pointing device, that's the thing. I can use a Mac with a trackpad for pretty much anything, including image editing. It's precise, doesn't do ghost clicks/taps, and it's BIG I never found a non-Mac with a trackpad I could use _at all_. I always need a mouse to use my windows laptop...
- _ZeD_ 3y agoYeah try playing doom
- fredoliveira 3y agoHopefully you don't mean original doom, because if you do, boy do I have a surprise for you ;-)
- miffe 3y agoI'm curious what the surprise is? Is og doom actually playable with a trackpad?
- braymundo 3y agoKeyboard only.
- mrob 3y agoFalse. The installer lets you choose between keyboard only, keyboard + mouse, and keyboard + joystick. According to John Romero, keyboard + mouse was intended: https://twitter.com/romero/status/473587688977596416 https://twitter.com/romero/status/473587688977596416
- pmontra 3y agoWasn't that keyboard only?
- mrob 3y agoMouse was always the best way to play. Doom comes with demo files that are obviously recorded using mouse, and the manual clearly recommends using it. It also supports keyboard only play, but this is in no way the "intended" method.
- RajT88 3y ago
- bitwize 3y agoOther manufacturers' trackpads are a compromise vs. having a mouse. Apple trackpads are a mouse replacement. There are literally people who have a Magic Trackpad instead of a mouse for desktop use. That's how good the Apple stuff is.
- semireg 3y agoI haven’t used a mouse since the first magic trackpads came out. Coincidentally, I have avoided RSI ever since abandoning mice and trackballs. Part of me feels that apple magic trackpads saved me from a lifetime of pain. They are that good.
- filoleg 3y ago> But they still are bad pointing devices as a type of pointing device. The Apple one is so good though, it convinced me to buy their dedicated desktop trackpad for when my laptop is docked and I work on my large monitor at the desk. It got to the point where I prefer their trackpad for literally everything I do on my desktop, with games being the only exception. Though I am still fine and good with using a mouse. Trackpads on windows laptops though, it feels insufferable in comparison.
- karaterobot 3y ago> because what else can you really fit into a laptop? The nipple! I have no idea what IBM actually called it, but that's what it was. I would take it 10 times out of 10 over a touchpad (which I appreciate but cannot use properly)
- lloeki 3y agoTrackpoint
- dsego 3y agoThey sell a desktop version and there are people that use it instead of a mouse. It supports complex gestures and probably causes less stress on your wrist than a mouse. I'd say it's on par.
- samuria 3y agoNot sure about the "bad pointing devices" thing. I have a very nice Logitech mouse and keyboard setup, but still prefer to use the Macbook touchpad while connected to an external display. They're just perfect in every sense.
- amatecha 3y agoI actually thought the trackpad was better with an actual physical click. To me the versions immediately prior to making it a stationary piece of glass was basically the best trackpad I've ever used in my life. It's disappointing how no other laptop manufacturer comes even close. I approach every single new laptop like "okay, is this finally the one that even compares?" and EVERY TIME I am like "wow, yup, it's been this many years and still not even close"...
- goosedragons 3y agoSteam Deck has TWO!
- herval 3y agoSteam Deck's little trackpads are pretty amazing, can confirm!
- ndiddy 3y agoThere's a company called Sensel that makes vibrating trackpads similar to Apple's, Lenovo has been putting them in some of their Thinkpad laptops. https://sensel.com/ https://sensel.com/
- Daneel_ 3y agoGive me dedicated buttons for clicking, including middle click. God I miss the old Lenovo trackpads.